Timing belt replacement.

[goz007]

Hey AlanM any chance u have part numbers for the timing kit & the water pump? Also before I go to far is yours an MD? If not disregard the part No request (although they could be useful for other members)

[AlanM]

Originally Posted by goz007

Hey AlanM any chance u have part numbers for the timing kit & the water pump? Also before I go to far is yours an MD? If not disregard the part No request (although they could be useful for other members)

Yep, it's an MD. Timing belt kits are cheaper and easier to find for the MC! (Although the only difference is the water pump.)

I ordered it in person at Autobarn, they wouldn't accept CC payment by phone. There's no kit (belt rollers and water pump) listed on their website.

I'll have to see if the receipt is in the box with the old parts and see if it has a part number.

BTW, for a laugh, check out Repco's price!
It's about $950 for the kit with water pump, and about $400 for the belt and roller kit without the water pump.

That makes it a pretty exxy water pump!

[goz007]

The V6 in the SZ is a little different were the crank pulley has no keyway & is held in place purely by the tension of the crankshaft gear bolt,(Duetz Diesel engines are the same- no keyways on crankshaft or camshaft-timing gears held in place by bolt tension)in saying that though it(cranckshaft gear)is not loosened or removed on cam belt replacement, how the timing moves(& it's probably not even 1tooth)is as the new belt is loading up with the tensioner as the cams are pinned but the crank isn't, it can allow a slight movement in the crankshaft.....l've also done timing belts without pinning the crank(I don't like to but sometimes u have no options)anthor trick I will use as well as putting marks on the cams & crank(to the heads & block or flywheel)i will also put marks on the teeth(crank & cams)to the old belt, then transfer the marks from the old belt(through a tooth count) to the new belt, that way i have double reference points.

[goz007]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15584219...mis&media=COPY

[goz007]

I'm looking@this one.....I believe it will suit the Mondeo2L

[AlanM]

Originally Posted by goz007

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/15584219...mis&media=COPY

The water pump looks right, assuming the photo is of the pump that comes with this kit.

Another kit I bought on Ebay once was very close. The water pump fit into the block perfectly, but the bottom half of the plastic timing belt cover didn't quite fit the pump. That sort of raised "wall" on the front of the pump was a slightly different shape, with a square corner instead of an angle. It just needed a little mod and it was fine. It's weird how many small, seemingly pointless changes these motors have undergone.

[AlanM]

BTW, the coolant drain on the pump is useful. It's easy to undo and easy to set up a funnel under it. You can pretty much catch every drop of coolant.

[goz007]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/274661573190
for anyone whos interested, i bought this & for the money it looks good, i'll report back after ive done the belt & H,P pump oil leak(but my early thoughts are it will be good) also a little footnote about the H.P pump its also timed so engine timing needs to be locked@flywheel & cams(like anything it can be done not locking crank with a heap of paint pen marks & u remove valve cover-imo for the cost of the kit its just asking for tears by not locking the crank timing up)or u could end up removing & being 180deg out on pump timing.

[AlanM]

Originally Posted by goz007

Hey AlanM any chance u have part numbers for the timing kit & the water pump? Also before I go to far is yours an MD? If not disregard the part No request (although they could be useful for other members)

Sorry, forgot about this. I've dug out the receipt. It's pretty badly printed, but as far as I can make out, the part number is:
KTB995EP which is the timing belt kit including the water pump.

But when I search that number on Autobarn's website it comes up empty.

Worth a phone enquiry though, as I said there's no timing belt kit for this car on their website anyway, but they were able to supply it, and quite quickly.

[Citroënbender]

That crosses to a Dayco boxed kit, probably a European made water pump but who knows?

A note on mistimed engine failures - to me it’s good when they design the rocker arms to work like “fuses”. A lot less cleaning up after a belt fails. Some of the eighties/nineties Peugeot in-line fours had cam caps that fractured instead. Nice idea but the spares weren’t really available and used parts would be likely to need line boring - so the rocker arm weak points were a real step up…

[AlanM]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

That crosses to a Dayco boxed kit, probably a European made water pump but who knows?

A note on mistimed engine failures - to me it’s good when they design the rocker arms to work like “fuses”. A lot less cleaning up after a belt fails. Some of the eighties/nineties Peugeot in-line fours had cam caps that fractured instead. Nice idea but the spares weren’t really available and used parts would be likely to need line boring - so the rocker arm weak points were a real step up…

The original was probably European made, possibly Mahle, but it failed at 178,000 km. And apparently it's a far from rare occurrence.