Australian fuel efficiency standards aimed at cutting petrol bills, 'catching up' with US

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by kypez

Reading more and I said it in another thread, it would seem manufacturers would have to buy credits from Tesla, BYD, etc. Would result in price increases for "polluting" cars and extra revenue for EV manufacturers.

Imagine being useless flogs like Stellantis, paying out the *** for carbon credits from Tesla

[ljf12]

Chris Bowen has stated that you can buy a Mazda CX30 in the UK that is 25% more fuel efficient than any you can buy in Australia.

Mazda UK website 2.0l auto fwd 6.1 l/100km, Mazda Australia website 6.3l/100km.

Do they use a different method for calculating fuel consumption in the UK ?

[ljf12]

So in the UK does their consumption test include driving up a mountain range at 180km/hr towing a trailer ?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by ljf12

Chris Bowen has stated that you can buy a Mazda CX30 in the UK that is 25% more fuel efficient than any you can buy in Australia.



Mazda UK website 2.0l auto fwd 6.1 l/100km, Mazda Australia website 6.3l/100km.



Do they use a different method for calculating fuel consumption in the UK ?

Think it might be the MX30 where you get a plug-in hybrid in the UK that we don't get in Australia..

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by ljf12

Chris Bowen has stated that you can buy a Mazda CX30 in the UK that is 25% more fuel efficient than any you can buy in Australia.

Mazda UK website 2.0l auto fwd 6.1 l/100km, Mazda Australia website 6.3l/100km.

Do they use a different method for calculating fuel consumption in the UK ?

For the longest time, car manufacturers reporting fuel economy figures in Europe did so
with the aim of lowest CO2 figures because surprise surprise a lot of registrations are taxed that way.
So yeah, I recon the European numbers have been massaged a bit where Aussie figures are probably less so.


I’m wary about all of this, anytime a government body or efficiency group has a good idea
it always ends up costing the average punter more, I’m surprised they haven’t raised fuel excise
to some ridiculous amount. I’m old, I’m cynical and just tired of all the bull****.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by jpd80

For the longest time, car manufacturers reporting fuel economy figures in Europe did so
with the aim of lowest CO2 figures because surprise surprise a lot of registrations are taxed that way.
So yeah, I recon the European numbers have been massaged a bit where Aussie figures are probably less so.


I’m wary about all of this, anytime a government body or efficiency group has a good idea
it always ends up costing the average punter more, I’m surprised they haven’t raised fuel excise
to some ridiculous amount. I’m old, I’m cynical and just tired of all the bull****.

A Mazda cx3 prob averages 9l/100km s in real life.

Have you looked at the average co2 numbers as the years roll by.

Ice cars will be out out of new car sales by the 2029 except for the rich.

Everyone else will buy a possibly dubious and probably Chinese electric car.

Apart again from the rich buying expensive electric car brands.

Again a large part of the population will be stuck with old ice bombs -new cars will not be on their horizon.

I question whether this is the start of the end of the car as a personal mobility device.

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by kevino

A Mazda cx3 prob averages 9l/100km s in real life.

Have you looked at the average co2 numbers as the years roll by.

Ice cars will be out out of new car sales by the 2029 except for the rich.

Everyone else will buy a possibly dubious and probably Chinese electric car.

Apart again from the rich buying expensive electric car brands.

Again a large part of the population will be stuck with old ice bombs -new cars will not be on their horizon.

I question whether this is the start of the end of the car as a personal mobility device.

That appears to be the end goal.

PT for all, and you live in the bug hive whether you like it or not.

[lra]

Originally Posted by kevino

Again a large part of the population will be stuck with old ice bombs -new cars will not be on their horizon.

I question whether this is the start of the end of the car as a personal mobility device.

Next step ............. come 20XX?. and if the Govt's legislation doesn't work as they predicted, and the roads are full of old ICE bombs, they will legislate that cars over XX years old must be deregistered and scrapped.

Chris Bowen and his Comrades are so far out of touch with reality and practicality.

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by lra

Next step ............. come 20XX?. and if the Govt's legislation doesn't work as they predicted, and the roads are full of old ICE bombs, they will legislate that cars over XX years old must be deregistered and scrapped.

Chris Bowen and his Comrades are so far out of touch with reality and practicality.

Always remember people - the most important thing we can all do is vote so that this madness doesn't have a chance to materialise in the first place.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by ToryMikey

Always remember people - the most important thing we can all do is vote so that this madness doesn't have a chance to materialise in the first place.

Pick a team. On one thread you don't like that we don't have Falcon Ute/Terri and lament the cost of these new cars and now want to vote in the people that saw to their (Ford/Holden) demise?!

[ToryMikey]

Originally Posted by ljf12

Chris Bowen has stated that you can buy a Mazda CX30 in the UK that is 25% more fuel efficient than any you can buy in Australia.

Mazda UK website 2.0l auto fwd 6.1 l/100km, Mazda Australia website 6.3l/100km.

Do they use a different method for calculating fuel consumption in the UK ?

Labor couldn’t lie straight in bed. See the Mediscare.

Feelings over facts with that mob.

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Imagine being useless flogs like Stellantis, paying out the *** for carbon credits from Tesla

The hot poker has led them to develop stuff like this, at 3.2L/100km

https://www.carexpert.com.au/jeep/gr...v-4x4-38437d31

disclaimer:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021...all-fire-risk/

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Sprintey

The hot poker has led them to develop stuff like this, at 3.2L/100km



https://www.carexpert.com.au/jeep/gr...v-4x4-38437d31



disclaimer:



https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021...all-fire-risk/

For the first 100 kms

[Sprintey]

Originally Posted by kypez

For the first 100 kms

Before or after the fire?