Holden Commodore is in Chrysler's sights as it prepares new 300 range with sharper st

[HULK EF]

Originally Posted by stang65

Hey Hulk how old are you bit personal isn`t it?

Well.
look at that post.. Questioning another persons driving actions,(mobile phone use in a motor vehicle)
Then swearing at them.. (he who casts the 1st stone) OR (those in glass houses)... Not the smartest thing to do... -Crow bar to the face anyone?
Punctuation?.........

"Hating" on other drivers of same makes/models because of the actions of 1/2 idiots??....

explained enough for you now stang65.? For the record I am 28.

Anyways.. im back on topic,rant over..

Ps, Polerising as the last model was, I think its what made it stand out.. But watering down this model May just find new buyers.. Miss that v8 Though..

[mik]

Originally Posted by HULK EF

Falcons in general are far from the final word on best handlng and interior fit and finish since the au days.. (handling anyways)

looks is each to their own.. -can look good if not overdone..

do you think so Hulk? maybe i`m just old but i`ve thought of them as a pretty competent handler for for a big family sedan, yes i can understand people picking them on the limit, comparing them to more race track oriented cars, .....anyway it`s a bit hard to see the 300c belting the commy, should be interesting anyway.

[Bobman]

Maybe if they built cars like they did in the EL days (when last best selling), they'd be able to sell a few more.

All you need to do is compare looks and quality of trim as well as exterior panels to know that cost-cutting has cost Ford dearly.

Just like EL was the last to have quality thick Pilkington glass, but what does Ford do after the EL? Get cheap rubbish "plastic-like" glass from China for the AU-onwards. Rough feeling dash material and very easy to scratch rough plastic trim along the console doesn't help the quality image either.

That said, the VE is nothing to write home about either, but the looks of the AU cemented the doom of sales until slightly resurrected by the BA, but it's a tough market these days.

[Ford_The_Win]

Originally Posted by Bobman

Maybe if they built cars like they did in the EL days (when last best selling), they'd be able to sell a few more.

All you need to do is compare looks and quality of trim as well as exterior panels to know that cost-cutting has cost Ford dearly.

Just like EL was the last to have quality thick Pilkington glass, but what does Ford do after the EL? Get cheap rubbish "plastic-like" glass from China for the AU-onwards. Rough feeling dash material and very easy to scratch rough plastic trim along the console doesn't help the quality image either.

Have you been inside an EL lately? The interior plastics are terrible and the fit is far from great. Definitely a league ahead of it's competitor, the VS - which was so bad it is literally shocking. But it's still poor at best. Way behind Magna and Camry equivalents.

[cartaa100]

Originally Posted by HULK EF

Well.
look at that post.. Questioning another persons driving actions,(mobile phone use in a motor vehicle)
Then swearing at them.. (he who casts the 1st stone) OR (those in glass houses)... Not the smartest thing to do... -Crow bar to the face anyone?
Punctuation?.........

"Hating" on other drivers of same makes/models because of the actions of 1/2 idiots??....

explained enough for you now stang65.? For the record I am 28.

Anyways.. im back on topic,rant over..

Ps, Polerising as the last model was, I think its what made it stand out.. But watering down this model May just find new buyers.. Miss that v8 Though..

just to make it clear since ive obviously upset you. i dont "hate" on all the drivers of those cars, ive just noticed that alot (not 1 or 2, im sure ive seen 1 or 2 aggressive drivers from every make of car!) of them are pretty aggressive.

i just told him to get off the phone cause he had it up at his ear and was swaying from side to side....im sorry i care about other people safety, maybe i shouldnt have told him to get f'd when he responded aggressively to me.

anyway leave it at that.


i think i prefer the old one more, from the front atleast.

[csv8]

My BF Mk 2 Ghia, to me is "plain jane" in interior finish. Satin spears, piano black, no chrome trim on outside windows, I might be old fashioned, but I like wood trim etc..The piano black should also include the clock not just grey plastic around clock. Monochrome ICC and its supposed to be premium sound.. Ghia doesn't look luxury, to me. But I still like it,,,

[Spudz27]

There is a parent at my daughters school who has the SRT-8. It is a car I always turn my head to look at.

[bingoTE50]

SRT-8 on full noise sounds the bomb . I liked the wagon more than the sedan.

[brismike]

I just don't like them . . They have no style to them to my eyes. Too much metal and not enough glass . . I would feel claustrophobic in one. As to taking on the Commodore .. good luck with that one haha.

[jed]

i would have bought one if the price was comparable to G6 LTD/ Berlina International , but they werent so i didnt.
i liked the 300 wagon

I like my G6 LTD enough to keep it

[BleedBlue]

I think they look great they really stand out and if the Falcon was no longer an option I would definately look at one. My only concern is the price of parts.

[aussie muscle]

If chrysler think they can make a substantial comeback, why are ford being so pessimistic about falcon?
i think ford need to shake things up, break a few rules. i mean they've done well with the xr6 turbo, so they know how to make a good car, they just need to get people back to buying them.
will chrysler knock off holden? not likely.

[EgoFG]

As long as the Chrysler takes Holden sales I am OK.
And with others here, if there was no Ford RWD large sedan, and the Chrysler was about the same price point as the Commo, I would take the Chrysler.
At least some of the profit does not go to America !!

[burnz]

will chrysler knock of ford?? (300c v's falcon)
i don't think that will happen either..

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by EgoFG

As long as the Chrysler takes Holden sales I am OK.
And with others here, if there was no Ford RWD large sedan, and the Chrysler was about the same price point as the Commo, I would take the Chrysler.
At least some of the profit does not go to America !!

Huh? The 2011 300C is fully imported by an American company and made in North America! At least Commodores are made in Australia.

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Huh? The 2011 300C is fully imported by an American company .

Owned by a European company .. Fiat

[burnz]

i would still prefer monies put into holden, ford, toyota.. that make the local product.

[kpcart]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

Have you been inside an EL lately? The interior plastics are terrible and the fit is far from great. Definitely a league ahead of it's competitor, the VS - which was so bad it is literally shocking. But it's still poor at best. Way behind Magna and Camry equivalents.

i dont agree with that at all. i have been in 2 VS commodores recently and they have held up much better then my old mans EF falcon. the magnas were pretty good too.

[DJR-351]

If i was in the market for a large RWD car the 300C (SRT-8) would be the one for me for sure, nothing else in Aus in the price range does it for me, and compared to the rest they have definitely nailed it in the style/class departments.....

The above is my own personal opinion only, and funnily enough, the only one that matters to me.....

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by burnz

i would still prefer monies put into holden, ford, toyota.. that make the local product.

Better money going to European companies that actually have a history.

[black54]

Like the SRT-8, tough as nails with a good set of wheels and it goes like stink!
But alas, no more!!
As for any late model Falcodores...no thanks!

Yeah, well, marque history wouldn't turn me towards another European!! A cheap Euro would though.

And Chrysler wont do what Falcon couldn't.
I'll go now.....

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by burnz

i would still prefer monies put into holden, ford, toyota.. that make the local product.

Would you put your money into the local product d in Russia.

I just buy whats good and what I like. Not just the local product for the sake of it.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Would you put your money into the local product d in Russia.

Russia has a few plants of different car makes(good ones)....so one could say yes.

[4.0i OHC]

Originally Posted by MethodX

Better money going to European companies that actually have a history.

Actually have a history? What do you mean by that statement?

Ford and Holden have plenty of 'history'. Both companies have been responsible for many outstanding cars throughout their history in Australia.

It's just a shame that Holden hasn't produced anything noteworthy since 1988.

[Mesa]

Pretty ambitious from Chrysler. If they could get the Challenger down here at a decent price I'd be lining up for one.

[csv8]

Originally Posted by vztrt

Russia has a few plants of different car makes(good ones)....so one could say yes.

You want a James May's Dacia?????

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by BluFGXR6

Pretty ambitious from Chrysler. If they could get the Challenger down here at a decent price I'd be lining up for one.

Same to be honest.
I wouldn't pay 140k or whatever they are worth here currently.