![]() |
|
Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum. You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated. |
|
The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk |
![]() |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
![]() |
#1 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,710
|
Hired a nice A4, great car it must be said! Loved it!
It was really nice, handles great, new A4 1.8 turbo, 8 speed (that was in fact a cvt, but hard to know) Looking at reviews after I had it I read this: All up, the A4 is a better performer, using under 7 litres/100km around town, which blew to 8.5 litres/100km when the little four-cylinder was worked hard. Government combined city/hwy average is 7.4. hmm, I got 20 litres per hundred on my first day, that was 61 litres for 305km!, and 18.5l/hundred on my second day.. thats near 300% worse! That leads me on to say, when the falcon gets its 2.0 turbo, sure it maybe economical idling around slow, but get it on a bit of boost, and it is guaranteed to be the worst performer as far as economy in the whole range. Seriously, can you even get 20 litres per hundred in a GT or XR8?!! |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#2 | ||
Got Ghia?
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Perth
Posts: 999
|
I know my 3v can have 20L/100km for breakfast if I'm being happy.
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#3 | ||
VFII SS UTE
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Central Coast
Posts: 6,353
|
wow...it's very easy to get a V8 under 20ltr around town.
normaly 13~14 in peak hour, something not right with the A4.
__________________
I don't often hear the sound of a screaming LSX. But when I do, So do the neighbours.. GO SOUTHS
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#4 | ||
Render unto Caesar
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: ::1
Posts: 4,221
|
What'd you do? Glue your foot to the pedal?
__________________
"Aliens might be surprised to learn that in a cosmos with limitless starlight, humans kill for energy sources buried in sand." - Neil deGrasse Tyson |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#5 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,876
|
I hired the exact same type of car including colour last year, mine was done through Europcar. I requested a Commodore or Falcon but they ran out of those.
Overall driving from Sydney to Coomba Park (near Forster) and back, some city and suburban driving I averaged 7.8 lires/100km which is outstanding. This thing felt rock-solid on the highway too - felt I could do 160kmh all day easy if I had the chance. I actually didnt really like it though, it was very cramped, the HVAC controls and radio controls were way too convoluted to use - scrolling through menus and other rubbish. I also didnt like the dash design, it was very upright and overpowering for such a small car. The back-seat was miniscule, think Corolla or smaller. For me the front wheel drive - low boost turbo combo killed it for me. Torque off the line meant that the front wheels were always scrabbling or jittering around putting the power down whilst fighting with the traction control. Other NA 4 cylinder/FWD are fine, but this just didnt gel. I would hate to see how mega-torque diesel front-wheel-drives go like. |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#6 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Queensland
Posts: 1,801
|
Far out, what were you doing? Did you manage to get the CVT stuck on a low gear haha. I hired an Audi a few weeks back (Virgin Blue customers got 10% off so though heck why not, sort of like a quarter life crisis) and I have to say it sipped fuel. I got an A4 convertible because my little cousins wanted to cruise around the Sunshine Coast and show off to their friends, we had a blast. Great car. Not exactly sure what the fuel figure was, but the tank was only half gone after a whole weekend spent driving around. It was a 1.8T too IIRC. Not sure why your car guzzled?
The Falcon should be fine with the 2.0 ECOBoost, push any car and it'll guzzle, drive it reasonably and it'll return a good figure. Same goes for the I6 though, drive it without gunning it and the fuel figures are amazing from such a powerful engine.
__________________
CURRENT: 2017 Escape Titanium 2.0L EcoBoost with Technology Pack in White Platinum PREVIOUS 2015 Fiesta ST / 2012 Focus Titanium / 2009 Fiesta Zetec / 2004 Fiesta Zetec |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#7 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 3,876
|
Yeah for me hiring the A4, made me realise how good the EcoBoost could be in the Falcon.
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#8 | ||
Geelong FC 07, 09 & 2011
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne Vic
Posts: 1,552
|
Lead shoes?
__________________
2023 Audi A5 45 TFSI |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#9 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Barossa Valley, South Australia
Posts: 3,381
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
Cheers, Sam. |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#10 | |||
Geelong FC 07, 09 & 2011
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne Vic
Posts: 1,552
|
Quote:
![]()
__________________
2023 Audi A5 45 TFSI |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#11 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,710
|
yes, it was in the adelaide hills, and er, yes I was wearing big heavy steel capped boots ;-)
It was on boost near the whole time :-) Funny thing, when its in sport mode, and you have been pushing, slowing down for a corner, it holds perhaps 4000 revs, and so boost so when you get to speeding up again its at full boost! I found the dash design and everything about it really well designed, done, and well made too. Lots of buttons etc though! |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#12 | |||
Geelong FC 07, 09 & 2011
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Melbourne Vic
Posts: 1,552
|
Quote:
On the EB4 falcon I think that this will be a successful move for ford. It looks like it will deliver significant fuel savings without detracting to much from the falcon driving experience. Win win in my book.
__________________
2023 Audi A5 45 TFSI |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#13 | |||
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 382
|
Quote:
![]() |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#14 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,077
|
Quote:
|
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#15 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 22,900
|
E series are easy to get airborn, specially after 300,000 kms and no visits to pedders.
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#16 | ||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: adelaide
Posts: 260
|
hire cars=stolen cars with lots of highway driving my 3v has 14L combined but will easily chew 20L/100km
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#17 | ||
Banned
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bat Cave
Posts: 1,237
|
I had a smart car 1l turbo and 10l city 7 highway
Best I ever got was 6.5 highway driving like an old person thing was supposed to be 4.9 combined! ha sure bloody thing used as much fuel if not more than any little 1.5 but it was quicker though. Yes really. It flew for what it was. It did have almost 70rwkw lol |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#18 | ||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Canberra
Posts: 13,374
|
My 2T does 13-15lt, with AWD and I spank the crap out it but it is Jap not German. Was it a quatro model?
|
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#19 | ||||
Happy Volkswagen owner
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Manly
Posts: 256
|
Quote:
Stoney!
__________________
Curent ride: 2009 model VW Golf 118tsi - 1.4L supercharged and turbocharged - ECU flash - 151kw and 318nm - 6.7s 0-100. Quote:
|
||||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#20 | ||
Donating Member
![]() Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 4,523
|
Very easy equasion.
If you want horses you have to feed them. HP comes from burning fuel, yes there are ways to do it more efficiently at the margins, but in general the rule holds. It doesnt matter if you have a big motor and meter the fuel down off throttle or a little motor and boost it up. To achieve 20l/100km youmust have been spanking the poor thing. The concept is spreading Mercedes C250 petrol. 1.8l turbo(CGI) 150kw and 310+nm from 2000 rpm. and an advertised consumption of 7.4 jeez the TS can suck donw 7.4 parked LOL
__________________
Oooh baby living in Miami....
![]() |
||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#21 | |||
Regular Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 397
|
Quote:
I'm averaging 8.9 in 4500 kms of mainly commuting, average speed of 36km/h. MK |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#22 | |||
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,710
|
Quote:
(No camera tricks with the ED, jumped 20 metres :-) ) Nice and low ![]() Front up ![]() Quite high (wheel was in the air, cant pause it in the right spot..) ![]() Nice and low ![]() High again ![]() |
|||
![]() |
![]() ![]() |