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Old 14-07-2009, 10:40 PM   #1
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OK Seen top gear and Clarkson was testing the v8 monaro which is the vauxhall something? for europe, now he calls it an "aussie car" and in the same sentence says "same engine as the corvette" hm now the 'vette is an American car with an American engine, so how can the car be Australian when the powerplant comes from the USA?

Now as best as I can tell the engine in the car is the vette engine, and yes its an American engine

There are 100% aussie designed and built cars here, but he isn't interested seemingly, which I think is a shame as some of them are very good cars.

Do I have my facts wrong or does Clarkson, and by the way Clarkson Australia has done alot since the rotary clothes line, we are not as dim as you made out. The win/loss ratio for rugby Australia vs England is in our favour, don't get too excited your country stopped eating scones and taking tea to beat us once.

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OK Seen top gear and Clarkson was testing the v8 monaro which is the vauxhall something? for europe, now he calls it an "aussie car" and in the same sentence says "same engine as the corvette" hm now the 'vette is an American car with an American engine, so how can the car be Australian when the powerplant comes from the USA?

Now as best as I can tell the engine in the car is the vette engine, and yes its an American engine

There are 100% aussie designed and built cars here, but he isn't interested seemingly, which I think is a shame as some of them are very good cars.

Do I have my facts wrong or does Clarkson, and by the way Clarkson Australia has done alot since the rotary clothes line, we are not as dim as you made out. The win/loss ratio for rugby Australia vs England is in our favour, don't get too excited your country stopped eating scones and taking tea to beat us once.

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If he were to please you then whatever was left of his segment would not have been very entertaining would it? Entertainment being the key word. By the way I think I watched that episode about 5 years ago?!?!??! Could be wrong though and I am sure there were threads on this very episode on AFF previously?
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Its not his fault that ford didn't have an export program to the UK.

Neverless, he did also say that the XR8 had an american engine, a half truth.
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I don;t quite understand what you are saying.

And re: your last paragraph, it's called "taking the p*ss", everyone does it.
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OK Seen top gear and Clarkson was testing the v8 monaro which is the vauxhall something? for europe, now he calls it an "aussie car" and in the same sentence says "same engine as the corvette" hm now the 'vette is an American car with an American engine, so how can the car be Australian when the powerplant comes from the USA?

Now as best as I can tell the engine in the car is the vette engine, and yes its an American engine

There are 100% aussie designed and built cars here, but he isn't interested seemingly, which I think is a shame as some of them are very good cars.

Do I have my facts wrong or does Clarkson, and by the way Clarkson Australia has done alot since the rotary clothes line, we are not as dim as you made out. The win/loss ratio for rugby Australia vs England is in our favour, don't get too excited your country stopped eating scones and taking tea to beat us once.

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I see, so aussies can wind up the poms but turn the tables and we get all sooky eh.... :

Clarkson is a bloody good fisherman.... :
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That was as mentioned above a very old episode

later on in another seriews they tested the Monaro against a jaguar SC v8 and a chrsyler 300C and all three presenters gave the winners jersey to the monaro and were singing its praises
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I do recall James using the term "you fat aussie slacker!" in referring to it doing 100kmh at 1500rpm,
was a good episode, could have done with a little less "locomotion" though. it's great seeing some of these older episodes as in series 3, oh there are plenty more TG motivationals to go, found them on finalgear.com

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By the way, that Monary was 02 plated (meaning registered in the first half of 02). A 52 plate would mean registered in the second half of 02. Pattern in the UK is 03,53,04,54 etc...

But still good to see the re-runs after all these years.

Btw, to the guy who started this thread, think of it as a badge of honour to be criticised by Clarkson.
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OK Seen top gear and Clarkson was testing the v8 monaro which is the vauxhall something? for europe, now he calls it an "aussie car" and in the same sentence says "same engine as the corvette" hm now the 'vette is an American car with an American engine, so how can the car be Australian when the powerplant comes from the USA?
Ok... So what should he have said that would have satisfied you?
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OK Seen top gear and Clarkson was testing the v8 monaro which is the vauxhall something? for europe, now he calls it an "aussie car" and in the same sentence says "same engine as the corvette" hm now the 'vette is an American car with an American engine, so how can the car be Australian when the powerplant comes from the USA?

Now as best as I can tell the engine in the car is the vette engine, and yes its an American engine

There are 100% aussie designed and built cars here, but he isn't interested seemingly, which I think is a shame as some of them are very good cars.

Do I have my facts wrong or does Clarkson, and by the way Clarkson Australia has done alot since the rotary clothes line, we are not as dim as you made out. The win/loss ratio for rugby Australia vs England is in our favour, don't get too excited your country stopped eating scones and taking tea to beat us once.

Bring on the flames!
think outside the square um maybe its because GM import the monaro to the UK. the monaro is made here and developed here thus an Australian car.

Ford dont import to the UK from Australia its pretty simple
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I damn near busted a gut when I saw that, the car saying "you poofter, poofter poofter" had me in tears.
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I damn near busted a gut when I saw that, the car saying "you poofter, poofter poofter" had me in tears.
Yes i liked it, but i don't think he was to impressed with that gizmo. that was the first time i have heard a Aussie voice computer. _2:
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It was very funny, and he was right. Just like you getting all sooky over what he said - very good light entertainment
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"same engine as the corvette" hm now the 'vette is an American car with an American engine, so how can the car be Australian when the powerplant comes from the USA?

Now as best as I can tell the engine in the car is the vette engine, and yes its an American engine

Bring on the flames!
hm with this type of acknowledgement on this forum about the origin of the power train in the then and also current V8 Commodore, it kind of makes the thread about the placement of the Chev badge on the grill and boot lid kind of irrelevant then!
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I see, so aussies can wind up the poms but turn the tables and we get all sooky eh.... :

Clarkson is a bloody good fisherman.... :
I agree, we dish it out to them all the time, plus that was an old episode when the English had finally won something and they made fun of it and good on them - we (aussies) have been doing it for years
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OK Seen top gear and Clarkson was testing the v8 monaro which is the vauxhall something? for europe, now he calls it an "aussie car" and in the same sentence says "same engine as the corvette" hm now the 'vette is an American car with an American engine, so how can the car be Australian when the powerplant comes from the USA?

Now as best as I can tell the engine in the car is the vette engine, and yes its an American engine

There are 100% aussie designed and built cars here, but he isn't interested seemingly, which I think is a shame as some of them are very good cars.

Bring on the flames!

I am having trouble understanding where you're coming from. If you are hurt because the Holden has overseas parts, don't be.... most cars, if not all, have foreign content. Even the humble Falcon six has a pedigree that harks back to US design, probably has a substantial amount of Chinese plastic and electronics and is a subsidiary of a US corporation. It's up to Ford whether they think it's worthwhile to play the Falcon on the world stage, in the meantime at least Holden are waving the Aussie flag for us parochial types.
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Well, Bob Lutz has just recently defended rebadging the Commdore as a Chevrolet, now that Pontiac has been shut down. And when prompted about the outcry due to the fact that GM is now US Government owned and funded, but an Australian car might be used to revive the Chevrolet Caprice name and potentially replace the ageing US build Ford Crown Vics - his response was “While the large (rear-wheel-drive) cars may be made in Australia, they are an integral part of GM, contain US-built engines and transmissions and numerous other components, and are so ‘American’ in character that I don't believe the law enforcement agencies would have any problems with the assembly origin of the vehicle. Plus, they'll love it,” he said.

(Bob Lutz quote from http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=64304&vf=2)

I guess in this case not being an Australian car might work in their favour....


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Well, Bob Lutz has just recently defended rebadging the Commdore as a Chevrolet, now that Pontiac has been shut down. And when prompted about the outcry due to the fact that GM is now US Government owned and funded, but an Australian car might be used to revive the Chevrolet Caprice name and potentially replace the ageing US build Ford Crown Vics - his response was “While the large (rear-wheel-drive) cars may be made in Australia, they are an integral part of GM, contain US-built engines and transmissions and numerous other components, and are so ‘American’ in character that I don't believe the law enforcement agencies would have any problems with the assembly origin of the vehicle. Plus, they'll love it,” he said.

(Bob Lutz quote from http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/Ar...eID=64304&vf=2)

I guess in this case not being an Australian car might work in their favour....


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Edit: The Arabs love drifting them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4gpsPGJuM
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Edit: The Arabs love drifting them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4gpsPGJuM
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It's been exported badged as a Chevrolet for about 9-10 years now to the middle east. Hopefully they keep the standard Holden front bars, the Pontiac bars induce vomiting.
I actually reckon the Ponty front end on the VE looks better than the Holden one
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It's been exported badged as a Chevrolet for about 9-10 years now to the middle east. Hopefully they keep the standard Holden front bars, the Pontiac bars induce vomiting.

Edit: The Arabs love drifting them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4gpsPGJuM
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It's been exported badged as a Chevrolet for about 9-10 years now to the middle east. Hopefully they keep the standard Holden front bars, the Pontiac bars induce vomiting.

Edit: The Arabs love drifting them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A4gpsPGJuM
My god, obvisouly no OH&S or Victorian Pollies over there!
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While I agree that it is absolutely incredibly stupid to the max, I still can't get over how incredibly skilful these Arab drift manoeuvres actually are!

And as for the Crown Vic, well isn't that essentially an American car built by the Cunnucks?
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While I agree that it is absolutely incredibly stupid to the max, I still can't get over how incredibly skilful these Arab drift manoeuvres actually are!

And as for the Crown Vic, well isn't that essentially an American car built by the Cunnucks?
At the moment it is yes, at the St Thomas Assembly Plant. Hasn't always been so.
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Holy crap.
There was a video of one of those crazy arab drifters doing it in a camry at night and he basically wrapped it around a pole as the car was on its side crushing the roof. This drifting madness in the middle east is more dangerous than the cast of queer eye ending up in a bikie bar.

BTW, am really sick of that stupid song being attached to every bloody video ever invented on Youtube.
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OMG at that video 45secs until 1.02 mins = god like
on the chev engine agruement.

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nizpro has been exporting XR6 turbo's to the UK for a few years now with around 300kw at the wheels if they liked the munro how much would they love the falcon. BRING ON THE FALCON ON TOP GEAR UK
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