Moving an unregistered, undrivable ED from Hoppers to Reservoir

renegade334 · 26-04-2009, 11:41 PM

Hey guys,

I'm moving from Hoppers Crossing to Reservoir in the next couple of days, and I need to get my ED falcon over there. I has a flat battery, a flat tire, and a busted power steering pump.

I'm trying to find the best way to get it from Hoppers to Reservior thats not too expensive.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,

Iggypoppin' · 26-04-2009, 11:47 PM

go to the local servo, hire a car trailer for a day, 100 bucks and then you return it later. cheapest option, unless a mate has one. you could quickly fix up the small issues it has to get it running, then get a day permit ($40 bucks here in adel, might b more or less where you are) and drive it there... was going to suggest the old RAA trick but the car isnt rego'd so that wont work.

renegade334 · 26-04-2009, 11:53 PM

Will a car trailer be able to haul a falcon?
What sort of car can safely tow it?

jaydee · 26-04-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by renegade334

Will a car trailer be able to haul a falcon?
What sort of car can safely tow it?

Thats why its called a car trailer, of course it can.
Another 6 cylinder car, preferably rear wheel drive, will have no trouble at all.

RG · 26-04-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by renegade334

Will a car trailer be able to haul a falcon?
What sort of car can safely tow it?

A car trailer will, as for the tow vehicle it needs to have a tow load rating equal to or above the weight it is towing. A Falcon with the 2200kg HD towpack will do this, a Falcon with the standard towpack will not.

renegade334 · 27-04-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jaydee

Another 6 cylinder car, preferably rear wheel drive, will have no trouble at all.

I have a NCII fairlane but I don't think the gas converter would handle it.
Would my mums 6cyl 2.0 Ltr telstar be ok? Or is it a little too under powered... not too mention Front wheel drive.
I guess i could borrow my mates VT

Yellow_Festiva · 27-04-2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by renegade334

I have a NCII fairlane but I don't think the gas converter would handle it.
Would my mums 6cyl 2.0 Ltr telstar be ok? Or is it a little too under powered... not too mention Front wheel drive.
I guess i could borrow my mates VT

Just stick to the VT mate... but you may still be caught out if it doesn't have the correctly rated hitch. A car trailer plus a falcon will be well over the 2 ton mark.

Iggypoppin' · 27-04-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by renegade334

Would my mums 6cyl 2.0 Ltr telstar be ok?

fail. could have sworn telstars had 4cyl motors....anyway, borrow your mates VT. just to be safe. or if you know someone with a V8 or a Don 4WD use that. how far is point A from point B?

renegade334 · 27-04-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by NJXR6

fail. could have sworn telstars had 4cyl motors....anyway, borrow your mates VT. just to be safe. or if you know someone with a V8 or a Don 4WD use that. how far is point A from point B?

Telstars have 6 cyl and 4 cyl

It's 47Km from A to B

I MIGHT be able to get a 4x4 but I doubt it.

Iggypoppin' · 27-04-2009, 12:21 AM

what kind of telstar is it?? i have never seen nor heard of it. not having a dig! genuinly curious now...if its only 47 clicks just lump it with a VT and car trailer from the servo. dont do what i did. we tied rope to my xr6 and the other end to my HQ and drove it 25 klms, me in the ute heavy on the breaks and my mate driving my xr6. didnt go over 25kph on 4 main roads and snapped the road 4 times. never ever again.....

Windsor220 · 27-04-2009, 12:31 AM

How much would it cost to get a towing place with a flatbed truck to do it? Wouldnt be too much surely.

In regards to the Telstar, dont they have the 2.5l? Similar to the Probe?

Matty4 · 27-04-2009, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Torxteer

How much would it cost to get a towing place with a flatbed truck to do it? Wouldnt be too much surely.

In regards to the Telstar, dont they have the 2.5l? Similar to the Probe?

Correct, 2.5lt V6.

On topic, a car trailer I recently hired was only rated to carry 1200kg, I reckon an ED might be over that so just check the weights and ratings of the trailer before you hire one. Wouldn't want it to jack-knife and then find out that it's overloaded and uninsured...

myxr6 · 27-04-2009, 01:45 AM

A mate of mine years ago towed an HZ Premier on a car trailer with a 180b.It didnt make it 10 km's down the road , both upside down in a ditch , written off. So take care.

vztrt · 27-04-2009, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by renegade334

Hey guys,

I'm moving from Hoppers Crossing to Reservoir in the next couple of days, and I need to get my ED falcon over there. I has a flat battery, a flat tire, and a busted power steering pump.

I'm trying to find the best way to get it from Hoppers to Reservoir thats not too expensive.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,

If that's all that is wrong with it then go to vic roads and get a day permit as suggested by NJXR6, the vicroads link is here http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/...iclePermit.htm. You'll be on the freeway for 90% of the journey and its only a 30 min drive. Just take a batt and a spare wheel.

mik · 27-04-2009, 02:43 AM

permit was $25 last time i got one in vic.

XR Martin · 27-04-2009, 08:01 AM

Ring a towie and get them to do it.
Most rental trailers are buckets and are also only limited to 2T gross weight. They normally weigh 600-800kg Tare, so a Falcon would be over that limit.

Only cost me $77 to get a car transported across Canberra, a car trailer was the same price for a half day. Also you have to provide your own straps, which decent ones would be another $50+
Just let them know a couple of days in advance and they can key up a return job, in the end of the day it would end up costing you about the same amount of money without the effort or the risk.

**Elks** · 27-04-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Torxteer

How much would it cost to get a towing place with a flatbed truck to do it? Wouldnt be too much surely.

Quote:

Ring a towie and get them to do it.
Most rental trailers are buckets and are also only limited to 2T gross weight. They normally weigh 600-800kg Tare, so a Falcon would be over that limit.

These boys have got it right. Will cost about $100, be done in an hour, safe, easy. You'll never hire a trailer again.

Hally · 27-04-2009, 08:12 AM

Give Mitch a call on 0420 671 711. He is local to Hoppers and has reasonable peices for his flat bed towing service.

Cheers,

Andrew

LTDHO · 27-04-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jaydee

Thats why its called a car trailer, of course it can.

No not true at all!!!

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Originally Posted by XR6 Martin

Ring a towie and get them to do it.
Most rental trailers are buckets and are also only limited to 2T gross weight. They normally weigh 600-800kg Tare, so a Falcon would be over that limit.

Exactly, it is illegal to tow a Falcon on a hired trailer!

RG · 27-04-2009, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

No not true at all!!!

Exactly, it is illegal to tow a Falcon on a hired trailer!

Don't know where you got that from, as long as the trailer is rated to tow that weight it is fine. I actually found a trailer at my local trailer hire place that weighed in at 500kg, it was a brand newie though. The one I towed my XR to Melbourne from Ballarat on was 600kg and was rated to have 2t. Used a 4x4 rated to 2500kg so all was legal.

Still a flatbed is the better option.

mcflux · 27-04-2009, 09:16 AM

1. Sit your existing flat battery in an oven (set to LOW) for 20 mins.
2. If it doesn't explode, place hot battery in engine bay.
2a. If it does explode, kick yourself for not filming & uploading to youtube.
3. Flat tyre? Be a man, drive on the rim! Or wrap it with an Australian Flag.
4. Don't forget to post up skid pics when you get to Reservoir

BlackLS · 27-04-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghia5L

1. Sit your existing flat battery in an oven (set to LOW) for 20 mins.
2. If it doesn't explode, place hot battery in engine bay.
2a. If it does explode, kick yourself for not filming & uploading to youtube.
3. Flat tyre? Be a man, drive on the rim! Or wrap it with an Australian Flag.
4. Don't forget to post up skid pics when you get to Reservoir

The best post in the forums for a while. LMAO at #3.

LTDHO · 27-04-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RG

Don't know where you got that from, as long as the trailer is rated to tow that weight it is fine. I actually found a trailer at my local trailer hire place that weighed in at 500kg, it was a brand newie though. The one I towed my XR to Melbourne from Ballarat on was 600kg and was rated to have 2t. Used a 4x4 rated to 2500kg so all was legal.

Still a flatbed is the better option.

2500 trailers are hard to come by and most are 2000
As the trailer weights 600 then you can carry 1400 at most.
Falcons start at about 1500 so they are illegal

So you need either a 2500 trailer or a light trailer.
If you have a V8, big audio system, etc. Then ya in trouble.

RG · 27-04-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

2500 trailers are hard to come by and most are 2000
As the trailer weights 600 then you can carry 1400 at most.
Falcons start at about 1500 so they are illegal

So you need either a 2500 trailer or a light trailer.
If you have a V8, big audio system, etc. Then ya in trouble.

This is why you NEVER hire a trailer from a servo. I use a specialist trailer hire place up in Ballarat where they actually even service them.

jcxr · 27-04-2009, 04:19 PM

Actually an early Xr weighs 1250kg I think, just trying to remember what was on my rego sticker. An XR8 weighs in at about 1700kgs? So there is a fair bit of room for the trailer weight. Just using these as an example.

XR6_190 · 27-04-2009, 08:21 PM

Two words: TILT TRAY

It won't cost you that much more, and it will be worth it for the peace of mind. as others have said, if you try with a car trailer, you need something decent to tow it with, I wouldn't even tow the empty trailer with a Telstar, and I personally don't even think a VT would be up to the job. Then there is the fact that you will need decent straps, they won't come with the straps, and they aren't cheap.

As I said, Tilt tray is the way to go.

mik · 27-04-2009, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by renegade334

Hey guys,

I'm moving from Hoppers Crossing to Reservoir in the next couple of days, and I need to get my ED falcon over there. I has a flat battery, a flat tire, and a busted power steering pump.

I'm trying to find the best way to get it from Hoppers to Reservior thats not too expensive.

Any suggestions?

Cheers,

should you end up with a trailer i can loan dogs and chains or binders , as long as they come back, i am a reservoir boy , send a pm if you want to borrow them.

renegade334 · 28-04-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hally

Give Mitch a call on 0420 671 711. He is local to Hoppers and has reasonable peices for his flat bed towing service.

Cheers,

Andrew

Did just that.

Mitch said he could do it this arvo, he picked it up and dropped it off no problems at all. He even offered to stop at a servo and pump up the tires.

Thanks guys