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Old 20-09-2007, 11:46 AM   #91
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well, those cops can consider their jobs gone.
he said he was willing to walk out....

But he didn't, and I would bet my house they don't lose their jobs.

im kinda surprised no other students jumped in, i would have thought they'd have more guts then that.
And then they get arrested for assaulting/hindering Police. What is it with students that they think they have a god given right to jump in and have their say or do their bit. If they're that concerned write a letter of compaint, but no, it's easier to try and bash a cop with the gutless mob mentality and run away like little girls when back up arrives.

These cops/security did nothing wrong, except what they're paid to do.
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Old 20-09-2007, 12:40 PM   #92
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Possibly be thrown out of court ?????
I remember way back some Police decided to punch the cr4p out of a black guy....They got what they deserved....
I never said Police brutality doesnt exist. Im well aware it happens and once is too often, I expect Police to lead by example. I just dont believe this instance was over the top. Of course there are other ways to handle things, and us sitting here looking over footage its easy to second guess them, they dont have that benefit. If you watch the last clip I posted a coupe of posts up, youll see students getting up and heading towards the officers. It could get ugly, created by the student in question, they chose to end it now.

Possibly thrown out of court?
Theres several things here.
1. He was asked to leave. (no crime)
2. He refused to leave. (Failing to obey a lawful instruction from law enforcement, its a crime)
Its worth noting here, he could be charged with a crime at this point, but they seem to be merely escorting him out. Thats lenient. Let me put it to you like this. Thats like getting pulled over for doing 120 in a 100 zone, and the copper doesnt fine you, instead just says slow down. Thats a good day for the speeder.
3. He resisted efforts to remove him (Another crime)
4. He resisted arrest (Another crime)

If he was charged with something such as failing to follow the lawful instruction, and never resisted, he may have been found not guilty, or the case thrown out. The arrest is still valid.that was my point. It doesnt matter that the court will find him not guilty. That is the Police job, and the guilt is the courts job. Police just need valid reasons for making the arrest.

This guy went further. He resisted. That charge would stick if they pursue it. Its clear he resisted. The comments about not wanting to leave, and followed well would you?, thats beside the point. He is expected to leave as instructed. If the request is unlawful, he can challenge that in court, you dont challenge the officer on the spot. Again, put another way. Its like looking in the mirror, seeing the flashing lights, assuming you did nothing wrong so you refuse to pull over. When finally forced to pull over, you stand there arguing with the officer. A fools game. If you start throwing your arms around, expect the worst.

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Old 20-09-2007, 12:57 PM   #93
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After reading all posts I guess it would be a good time to clarify that they were not police! They were campus security who happened to know the young male quite well due to prior incidents of a similar nature. Apparently he was they campus equivalent of Peter Hore. But just like the APEC footage of that John Butler looking photographer getting put on her ar$e that keeps getting replayed on the tv at the moment, generally all most people see is a 10 second bite to form an opinion.
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Old 20-09-2007, 02:22 PM   #94
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Haha! The remix


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Old 20-09-2007, 02:50 PM   #95
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I would have so much fun with a taser rather than banning people!

I hug, sit and a Taser.. thats made my day!
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Old 20-09-2007, 03:07 PM   #96
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The Police or Security should Taser all trouble makers

And if I had control of the water cannon truck while APEC was on I would have hosed down a few Protestors just for the fun of it

And why is it always Uni students or young people of that age group that cause most of the unruly behaviour ?

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Old 20-09-2007, 03:10 PM   #97
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Good on the cops.
If only they started doing this here.
Spot on :hihi:
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Old 20-09-2007, 03:20 PM   #98
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Old 20-09-2007, 03:48 PM   #99
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If i had control of the water cannon truck i'd wash my car on the lawn without having to use tank water.
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Old 20-09-2007, 04:06 PM   #100
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After reading into it a little more it seems this guy has a history of being a trouble maker. They probably got sick of his antics.
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Old 20-09-2007, 04:42 PM   #101
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He wasnt there to ask a question. I mean, he asked a question, but thats not why he was there. If he wanted, he could have stopped and listened for an answer after the first question, instead, he spoke over Kerry, and started rambling crap. He was there to make trouble, nothing more.
He was asked to leave. He was escorted to the back of the room while yelling. He broke from the "police" grip, and ran towards the microphone again. He was restrained and was attempted to be escorted once more. He was flailing his arms, and yelling, and was the WHOLE time trying to get away from the "police".
He struggled, and they went to ground. They read him his rights (you can hear them between the whinging of the guy), and where trying to cuff him. He would not put his hands behind his back (you can hear them asking for him too).
He continued refusing. He was warned they would use the taser. He still would not put his hands behind his back, and was not being cooperative, re, resisting arrest.
He offered to walk out, although his rights had been read, its now too late, he is not able to walk out, as they are obviously going to arrest him.
He was told to put his hands behind his back and stop struggling, and to calm down, all of which he refused to do.
The "police" used a Taser to subdue the young man, so they would be able to put the handcuffs on, and escort him away from the campus.
The taser worked, handcuffs went on, owwie owwie owwie was repeated, and he was led away easily.

Not too hard to understand really. They were doing there jobs, and doing a fine job while at it. They knew the guy was a trouble maker, and thats what he was there to do. He refused arrest, they used a means necessary to arrest him.
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