Well hello! Sub standard fuel switching....

**PepeLePew** · 03-07-2007, 08:26 AM

Is this actually news to any of us? How many of us have hit servos that well tuned cars seem to ping on their premium? Not picking on Ballina here....I dont think its an isolated issue.

From Ninemsn....
Eleven BP outlets stop selling premium
Monday Jul 2 23:06 AEST
Eleven BP petrol stations in northern NSW have suspended sales of BP Ultimate brand after a media sting revealed sub-standard fuel was being sold as the premium product.

Ballina Petroleum issued a statement saying it regretted the incident and was cooperating with an investigation into the incident.

The company cleared BP of any blame.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=276389

merlin · 03-07-2007, 08:30 AM

Damn, just filled up with BP Ultimate for the first time yesterday...

The Yeti · 03-07-2007, 09:11 AM

I stoped using it due to inconsiistancy

falzoony · 03-07-2007, 09:16 AM

I think Australia on a whole gets second grade fuel.

Yellow_Festiva · 03-07-2007, 10:21 AM

This was only a hand full of BP's owned by the same chap.

He blended 91 with 98RON to get a mixture on average of 94-96RON.

Enough to make him a hand full of cents per litre, but the average motorist probably wouldn't have noticed unless they REALLY knew their cars performance.

Shame really, they tested a whole lot of other BP's and got the correct 98RON for their "Ultimate"

**PepeLePew** · 03-07-2007, 10:44 AM

Hey Im not trying to tar all stations with the big brush.

I used to have a VX SS tuned right on 98....anything less and the difference was quite noticeable. BP's proved the most consistent for me (in SA). I've had odd issues with BP, Shell, and Mobil over the years. Left certain servos off my love list. My point was I dont think this is just Ballina, others have and will do it, they just dont get sprung..

gozza · 03-07-2007, 10:59 AM

Ive heard stories of Servos getting low on fuel and other Servos helping them out with some of their own fuel in the middle of the night lol

Unco · 03-07-2007, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PepeLePew

Is this actually news to any of us? How many of us have hit servos that well tuned cars seem to ping on their premium? Not picking on Ballina here....I dont think its an isolated issue.

From Ninemsn....
Eleven BP outlets stop selling premium
Monday Jul 2 23:06 AEST
Eleven BP petrol stations in northern NSW have suspended sales of BP Ultimate brand after a media sting revealed sub-standard fuel was being sold as the premium product.

Ballina Petroleum issued a statement saying it regretted the incident and was cooperating with an investigation into the incident.

The company cleared BP of any blame.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=276389

yes, i have definitely noticed it, but not with BP. once in a while i used to fill up with premium at the local 7/11 and my car at the time (celica) would start pinging after a short while driving. generally, i didn't have any issues with premium fuel from other outlets.

Ringo · 03-07-2007, 02:57 PM

About 7 years ago an independant servo was busted adding toulene to fuel.

Toulene is already present in unleaded fuel but only a very small %.

By adding more toulene fuel it didn't make the engine ping but just lack power.

It was about the same time I worked a Honda Dealer and we had customers complaining of a lack of power and we could never fault them....

Felony · 03-07-2007, 03:47 PM

Thats very dissapointing, my main fuel for all my cars is Bp ultimate, has been for a long time.....
Looks like 100 ron shell now if it even is infact 100 ron lol
Cheers

The Yeti · 03-07-2007, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

This was only a hand full of BP's owned by the same chap.

He blended 91 with 98RON to get a mixture on average of 94-96RON.

Enough to make him a hand full of cents per litre, but the average motorist probably wouldn't have noticed unless they REALLY knew their cars performance.

Shame really, they tested a whole lot of other BP's and got the correct 98RON for their "Ultimate"

If you think this guy is the only one doing it you are very wrong my freind I wouldnt say its every servo either but the way I see it is, fuel on a whole is a hit and miss afare at the best of times so I will stick with regular its like going to mackers you no its never great but your generaly not dissapointed with what you get

Yellow_Festiva · 03-07-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Yeti

If you think this guy is the only one doing it you are very wrong my freind I wouldnt say its every servo either but the way I see it is, fuel on a whole is a hit and miss afare at the best of times so I will stick with regular its like going to mackers you no its never great but your generaly not dissapointed with what you get

At no time did I ever say that I thought this was the only guy doing this. I was referring to the story as mentioned in the opening thread.

yift · 03-07-2007, 10:57 PM

in victoria as long as its an aa petroleum bp servo you cant go wrong! mr adrianopoulos always has the highest standard of quality with all his products and services from fuel to food and cleanliness of his dunnies!

Lukeyson · 04-07-2007, 12:13 AM

Ballina is a hole anyhow

BionicGT · 04-07-2007, 01:32 AM

BP ensures BP Ultimate has a minimum octane rating of 98. Other brand PULPs can vary depending on batch.

The fuel mixing scam was an isolated incident orchestrated by the local BP wholesaler.

TUF514 · 04-07-2007, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ringo

About 7 years ago an independant servo was busted adding toulene to fuel.

Toulene is already present in unleaded fuel but only a very small %.

By adding more toulene fuel it didn't make the engine ping but just lack power.

It was about the same time I worked a Honda Dealer and we had customers complaining of a lack of power and we could never fault them....

Mate i think you have that wrong.

Toluene is something like 116 ron! Toluene is a helluva octane booster and would aid in performance.

It is extremely combustable and a very cold fuel.

**ebxr8240** · 04-07-2007, 01:55 AM

I get around a few dyno shops and they all say "this time of the year" they notice the octane is taken out during the cooler months....

MYVYSS · 04-07-2007, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by falzoony

I think Australia on a whole gets second grade fuel.

LOL You are WRONG mate..

I am in the USA and well the Highest Grade fuel you can buy at any Servo is 91 Ron...and even then it has about 10% ethonol added, its crap...

standard here is 87 Ron

mowog · 04-07-2007, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYVYSS

LOL You are WRONG mate..

I am in the USA and well the Highest Grade fuel you can buy at any Servo is 91 Ron...and even then it has about 10% ethonol added, its crap...

standard here is 87 Ron

The US has a differrent rating system for Octane.

AWD Chaser · 04-07-2007, 07:24 AM

I found BP fuel really "dirty" for my motorbike. Just coughed and splutted every time I fueled up there, but I think it was because it was a low turn over, privite run BP... not a big one.

Fueled the bikes up at Woolworths the other day and got REALLY bad fuel. Blocked the carbi jets, and had to run the bikes on reserve to burn out the crap that had settled at the bottom of the tank.

95-98RON runs the bikes smoothly.

When your talking 250-600CC carbi, you really feel bad fuel compared to a car...

mowog · 04-07-2007, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYVYSS

LOL You are WRONG mate..

I am in the USA and well the Highest Grade fuel you can buy at any Servo is 91 Ron...and even then it has about 10% ethonol added, its crap...

standard here is 87 Ron

Here is a link that will explain the difference

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating