Vale Mitsi Lancer Jan 2019.

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With Triton leading the way, Mitsubishi is on track for a sales record this year. In the combined ute and SUV market, it trails only Toyota and this success has moved it past Ford and Holden into No. 4 spot.

The brand has all but abandoned conventional cars - the last Lancers will roll out of dealerships early in the New Year, leaving the Mirage as the sole passenger car. " https://www.themorningbulletin.com.a...ety-t/3601408/

[Danny]

Sole passenger car? So Paj Sport, Eclipse Cross, ASX, Outlander, Pajero are all commercial vehicles?

[stig_3754]

Originally Posted by Danny

Sole passenger car? So Paj Sport, Eclipse Cross, ASX, Outlander, Pajero are all commercial vehicles?

I think they class 'Passenger cars' and 'SUVs' differently. Silly I agree as SUVs carry passengers.

[cs123]

Can't wait for the SUV, 4x4 fad to come to an end.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by cs123

Can't wait for the SUV, 4x4 fad to come to an end.

+1 bazillion

[DJR-351]

Originally Posted by cs123

Can't wait for the SUV, 4x4 fad to come to an end.

Fad Lol, 4X4s have been around long before i bought my first in 1980, and will be around long after you and i are both planted so don't hold your breath....

An increasing number of people are exploring parts of Australia that a sedan only driver will never see, if your quite happy to sit in the burbs only then so be it, but don't begrudge those that have larger horizons.....

(And yes we have all heard the Toorak tractor cliches)

[Bill M]

Originally Posted by DJR-351

Fad Lol, 4X4s have been around long before i bought my first in 1980, and will be around long after you and i are both planted so don't hold your breath....

An increasing number of people are exploring parts of Australia that a sedan only driver will never see, if your quite happy to sit in the burbs only then so be it, but don't begrudge those that have larger horizons.....

(And yes we have all heard the Toorak tractor cliches)

I don't believe anyone begrudges those who are avid 4X4 travellers but when most are used in the suburbs then the attitudes will be different.
Toorak tractors is an old "cliche" as you put it but one well deserved for the suburban dwellers.

Happy travels

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by stig_3754

I think they class 'Passenger cars' and 'SUVs' differently. Silly I agree as SUVs carry passengers.

And have to comply to the same emission regulations.

[Vesper Martini]

Originally Posted by cs123

Can't wait for the SUV, 4x4 fad to come to an end.

Why? so there is something for you to Buy 2nd hand that meets your preferences in a few years?

seems the only ones complaining aren't in the market for new cars anyway..

[Fairlane 500]

I think the current shape Mitsubishi Mirage is one of the ugliest things I have seen on the road in recent years.

[Vesper Martini]

The Irony that they keep the Mirage, Ive viewed them as a mobile road block for years.
only the VW Tiguan seems to be worse these days.

something about the people that drive them

[RANGEREST]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

+1 bazillion

Originally Posted by cs123

Can't wait for the SUV, 4x4 fad to come to an end.

Sorry boys, not gonna happen any time soon.

[Fairlane 500]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

The Irony that they keep the Mirage, Ive viewed them as a mobile road block for years.
only the VW Tiguan seems to be worse these days.

something about the people that drive them

Agreed.

Another regular mobile road block I have noticed is the 4 door Yaris.

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Fairlane 5OO

Agreed.

Another regular mobile road block I have noticed is the 4 door Yaris.

And retired grandpa in his 6 second Aurion.

[Adamz Ghia]

Originally Posted by marty351

And retired grandpa in his 6 second Aurion.

Hey, try five seconds...

[OzJavelin]

Originally Posted by vztrt

And have to comply to the same emission regulations.

The "original" SUVs didn't .. that's why they exist ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_..._to_popularity

Automotive writers and journalists have offered various opinions about what was the "first true SUV". A vehicle often considered is the 1946 Willys Jeep Station Wagon designed by Brooks Stevens, which was first offered with 4-wheel drive in 1949.[41][42] It was produced in the US until 1965 and into the 1970s in Argentina and Brazil. The 1956 factory optional 4WD version of the International Harvester Travelall has been called the first full-size SUV.[38] Hemmings Motor News has called the 1963 Jeep Wagoneer "the progenitor of the popular sport utility vehicle" that "combine[s] utility, handsome good looks, [and] multiple surface capabilities",[15] and Four Wheeler magazine simply called it "the first modern sport utility vehicle".[43]

According to Robert Casey, the transportation curator at the Henry Ford Museum, the 1984 Jeep Cherokee (XJ) was the first true sport utility vehicle in the modern understanding of the term,[44] although Jeep already used the term literally in their 1974 brochures, for the original SJ Cherokee.[30][31] Developed under the leadership of AMC's François Castaing and marketed to urban families as a substitute for a traditional car (and especially station wagons, which were still fairly popular at the time), the Cherokee had four-wheel drive in a more manageable size (compared to the full-size Wagoneer) as well as a plush interior resembling a station wagon.[44] With the introduction of more luxurious models and a much more powerful 4-liter engine, sales of the Cherokee increased even higher as the price of gasoline fell, and the term "sport utility vehicle" began to be used in the national press for the first time.[44] "The advent and immediate success of AMC/Jeep's compact four-door Cherokee turned the truck industry upside down."[45]

The corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) standard was ratified in the 1970s to regulate the fuel economy of passenger vehicles. Car manufacturers evaded the regulation by selling SUVs as work vehicles.[46] The popularity of SUV increased among urban drivers in the last 25 years and particularly in the last decade. Consequently, modern SUVs are available with luxury vehicle features, and some crossover models adopt lower ride heights to accommodate on-road driving.

Keith Bradsher explained the rise of the SUV with American Motors' (AMC) lobbying the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for a waiver of the United States Clean Air Act. The EPA subsequently designated AMC's compact Cherokee as a "light truck", and the company marketed the vehicle to everyday drivers.[37] AMC's effort to affect rulemaking changing the official definition of their new model then led to the SUV boom when other auto makers marketed their own models in response to the Cherokee taking sales from their regular cars.

[vztrt]

Originally Posted by OzJavelin

The "original" SUVs didn't .. that's why they exist ..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sport_..._to_popularity

Us regs. Your right. The SUV came about to get around us emission laws.

But here in Oz an Everest will have more stringent emission laws.

[Windsor220]

The ASX is basically a lancer wagon. Wouldn't even class it a SUV

[marty351]

Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

Hey, try five seconds...

Thats the TRD version, isn't it?

[NX74205]

No real loss, I don't think. The Lancer in its current guise is a horrible car that's long overdue for replacement.

[mike_nofx]

Originally Posted by cs123

Can't wait for the SUV, 4x4 fad to come to an end.

I really hope we always have sedans available to buy because I like the option there. But honestly sedans are probably the least useful vehicles on the road.

Of the 18 or so cars I’ve owned only 4 have been sedans because they are too restrictive.

[FG50T]

Originally Posted by Bevsta007

Why? so there is something for you to Buy 2nd hand that meets your preferences in a few years?

seems the only ones complaining aren't in the market for new cars anyway..

No mate, because SUV's are a waste of space on our roads. We'd like to have more choice of a vehicle to buy than just SUV's. Personally I can't wait for the hatch back era to return.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by FG50T

No mate, because SUV's are a waste of space on our roads. We'd like to have more choice of a vehicle to buy than just SUV's. Personally I can't wait for the hatch back era to return.

There's a n number of hatches available now is there not?

[roddy1960]

Actually didn't mind the Lancer looks wise . Have no idea what they were like to own except that I was told that like most Mitsy's they were a bit more oil burning than most.

When you look around there are still sedans and hatches being built and bought and some are not too expensive (Toyota Corolla ) , Subaru's , Hyundai , Kia , Ford as we speak ,not least Mustang...I suppose GM also as we speak .

We need a certain amount of choice still including sedans/ hatches because it'd be ridiculous to just have SUV's just as it would be to just have sedans/hatches with little or no SUV's.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

The ASX is basically a lancer wagon. Wouldn't even class it a SUV

Pretty much. Went to a concert last weekend in the Hunter Valley. Everyone leaving at the same time caused the exit to back right up. People started driving up a grass hill as a short cut to the road.
An ASX pushes in front of a few other cars and attempted to get up the hill failed 3 times before putting their tail between their legs and joining the queue to leave.
Funny thing was not long before the ASX failed a Statesman or Caprice managed to get up this grass hill.
Good entertainment seeing which cars would fail.

[BENT_8]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Pretty much. Went to a concert last weekend in the Hunter Valley. Everyone leaving at the same time caused the exit to back right up. People started driving up a grass hill as a short cut to the road.
An ASX pushes in front of a few other cars and attempted to get up the hill failed 3 times before putting their tail between their legs and joining the queue to leave.
Funny thing was not long before the ASX failed a Statesman or Caprice managed to get up this grass hill.
Good entertainment seeing which cars would fail.

So a couple of 2wd vehicles attempt to drive up a hill and one fails, however, it has nothing to do with the power output of either vehicle or the person behind the wheel, it was the badge that was the point of difference..
How embarrassing.

[mike_nofx]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

So a couple of 2wd vehicles attempt to drive up a hill and one fails, however, it has nothing to do with the power output of either vehicle or the person behind the wheel, it was the badge that was the point of difference..
How embarrassing.

Probably also because the ASX is wrong wheel drive too.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by BENT_8

So a couple of 2wd vehicles attempt to drive up a hill and one fails, however, it has nothing to do with the power output of either vehicle or the person behind the wheel, it was the badge that was the point of difference..
How embarrassing.

Or perhaps said owner of the ASX assumed he/she had 4WD simply because it was an SUV?

[BENT_8]

Last week i was down the local boat ramp on a lowish tide, the driver of a (insert 4cyl fwd suv) pulled their boat out with ease as their drive wheels were on dry cement, the driver of (insert rwd sedan) just spun on the slippery lower section of the ramp.

Conclusion..4cyl fwd suv's are better at retreiving boats than rwd sedans even though i've pulled many a boat out on the very same ramp with rwd vehicles without fuss.

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Windsor220

The ASX is basically a lancer wagon. Wouldn't even class it a SUV

So by that logic a territory isn't a suv either? I mean, it's just a falcon wagon.