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14-07-2016, 08:17 AM | #1 | |||
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The quality of comments on the page made me laugh. I have worked in servos for awhile now, and agree with it, my reasons are below. For those uninformed. Unregistered plates typically mean: stolen plates, or old plates no longer tagged to a car. The only reason why you have these on your car is to do something wrong. Like commit a crime. Within that is drive off with fuel. 99% of the time this is the case. Take it from someone with over 10 years experience of the front line in servos. I now have a sixth sense about a drive off now. Sometimes I'm wrong. Rarely. But sometimes. Yes I maybe judging, but bet dollars to doughnuts, the white commodore at a pump at 2 am, with lights on, door open, is a very good sign they are about to do a runner. As for those screaming "invasion of privacy" - it's not. These are public records. Just like phone numberse that are not private. Checking your plate doesn't list your phone number, address, the colour of your underwear, or who you boned last night, it just tells us if it's legally registered or not. Is that a big deal? Anyone can take down your rego and check it. We're just checking it for the right reason. Not writing it down to pay you a visit later with a crowbar for cutting me off. Why do they check regos? To stop losing money from drive off's. It's the same as stealing from Coles or Woolies. Just because your not physically consuming it, doesn't make taking it right. More importantly on a selfish note, to stop wasting my time filling out drive off forms and incident reports that I have to sometimes do in my own time because my shift was too busy to do it during. Or they drive off JUST before my shift finishes. Thanks, you inconsiderate, whale-felching, lowlife scum. Point is, if everyone did the right thing, we wouldn't have to do this. This is the real world, we have to live in. Anyone else's thoughts?
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14-07-2016, 09:23 AM | #2 | ||
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I didn't think this was new.
Fair enough too, I've heard of fake or stolen plates being used to do drive offs. They would want to look into why their system got it wrong in this case. How often does that happen? |
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14-07-2016, 02:30 PM | #3 | |||
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A lot of variables. But some sites are more problematic than others. As for the system, it's not infallible. Maybe she paid it on the day it was due, and BPay takes 2-3 days to reach the department of transport. Or there was a paperwork stuff up. Experienced that myself. Got pulled over for unregistered and uninsured, went to court, and case got dropped once the prosecution investigated it.
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14-07-2016, 10:42 AM | #4 | |||
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I assume the permit is physical? Just show the attendant.
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14-07-2016, 12:07 PM | #6 | |||
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I didn't go to the news to tell them and have a sook and cry and say I will tell all my mates not to go to that petrol station cause they refused me fuel. Not the petrol stations fault either for the said lady in this story, it was Vic Roads, would she also sook to the news if she got pulled over by the police for an unregistered car. Complain about the Vic Roads system, oh but that would not have made a news story and she didn't get her 2 minutes of fame. Some people need to harden up and get on with more important things in life.
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14-07-2016, 03:36 PM | #7 | ||
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I've filled up a VK Group A and a yellow VL Turbo in the past with no plates (on a permit) Thought it was pretty funny that they didn't think twice about turning the pump on as I know I look like a pretty dodgy character at times But I get pulled up all the time in my new car to prepay
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I was refused fuel when I had purchased an eb ghia with no plates,had a permit to drive though,just went inside and gave them my license till I went in and paid for the fuel after I filled her up. Simple and fair since my car had no plates.
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14-07-2016, 04:18 PM | #9 | ||
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Wow, none of this camera stuff in the bush.
I get all my diesel farm delivered but buy petrol from the truck stop. We have an RTAA next door so lots of trucks fuelling at all hours. The servo isn't linked to the roadhouse, it's run remotely. It used to be insert your credit card and the pump would switch on and off you go and fill up, then the cc would be debited a few days later. Now for some reason that's been stopped and now you have to select an amount. I just enter $100 and usually the total is $60-$80. The whole $100 gets debited but then a week or so later they credit the account with the leftover. So if I only take $60 worth of fuel they credit me back the extra $40. Not sure why they moved to this method. Most trucks are putting in $2000+ It wasn't done because of drive offs, the roadhouse didn't want to serve fuel 24/7 anymore, so Dunnings came in to do it remotely.
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I noticed some do this too really ticks me off. I wonder if they earn a little bit of interest on your money before it comes back to you ?????
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16-07-2016, 07:11 AM | #11 | ||
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I had to show ID and the paper permit Steve (happened the day I got the wagon registered, before I screwed the plates on back at home)
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14-07-2016, 10:51 AM | #12 | ||
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Why not just set all pumps to be prepaid 24/7? There'd be no need for cameras...
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14-07-2016, 01:35 PM | #14 | ||
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I had a servo ring the police on me thinking i drove off without paying & all i did was check the air (the air is away from the pumps of course).
I told the police i checked the air, they rang the servo back they only had cameras inside so no evidence of drive off so police rang me back said forget it. I went to servo the next day looking for boss lucky he wasn't there. (thought i would just share). How would prepaid work if you don't know how much left to fill the tank, lot of times i fill maybe as eg.$32.57 or something odd. |
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14-07-2016, 02:34 PM | #16 | |||
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I try to use the bowser payment whenever I can. I love it and never had an issue of getting ripped off or whatever. EDIT - Wait sorry mate I think I read it wrong. I think you mean pre paying in cash at the counter? Yeah that'd get annoying, especially going back for $0.65 change. Either way, bowser payment is the way forward
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14-07-2016, 02:56 PM | #17 | |||
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(maybe the owners of 711's know how the employees now feel - another topic for another time) Last edited by PaulXR50; 14-07-2016 at 03:27 PM. Reason: more info. |
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15-07-2016, 09:48 PM | #19 | |||
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Funny enough there is a wall of driveoffs at a big servo near my work. Ive noticed its mainly jacked up utes (with trade stuff in the back) and cars that people cant afford to run after buying them (expensive suvs and euro cars).
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14-07-2016, 03:07 PM | #20 | |||
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Implement 24/7 prepay, costs nothing to implement. Time to recoup costs, instant. Besides, they can still do the "spend $5 to save $2.50" spiel
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14-07-2016, 03:22 PM | #21 | |||
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as for 24/7 prepay I assume you mean like pay at pump? What a Massive PITA that would be for your customers AND they wouldn't have a need to come in to the shop to buy things like drinks lollies and the stuff that actually makes the money for the business
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Or just from the console, software and possibly hardware with that. That's the current problem at my particular servo. We've been asking for it for awhile, but due to the cost, across all sites to interact with head offices systems for stocktake and record keeping is quite expensive. Or put in hi res cameras that scan plates and also record your face and car really well, which is also really handy for robberies and altercations on site... You were saying?
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The costs would be huge to implement your idea over the cameras. Trust me, my company toyed with the idea of coming up with a product that would link your rego plate with your bank account and therefore filling up with petrol would be as simple as getting out, filling up, waiting for the green tick on the petrol pump to say funds approved and you can drive off. But the costs are huge with little benefit.
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16-07-2016, 12:32 PM | #26 | |||
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Now you have to walk in there & wait to pay while the attendant is making coffees, selling cakes, condoms or all sorts of other crap to a long line up of people! I recently noticed I had a blown parker globe on my Commodore one evening & had to go to 4 of these garbage stations to fine one that sold standard fitting stop/tail light globes! They are certainly not "service" stations anymore! |
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16-07-2016, 12:39 PM | #27 | |||
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, garage remote battery or even a light bulb is near impossible, while you can find every brand of condom and lubricant imaginable at a servo. Most servos have become a joke, guess they worked out what sells rather than what a servo should stock |
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16-07-2016, 01:15 PM | #28 | |||
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16-07-2016, 04:05 PM | #29 | |||
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I don't remember light bulb manufacturers or even oil companies giving us these types of incentives. Heinz even sent a rep into the store one night at around 2am (a very attractive young lady) to set up shop and give free samples of baked bean pasties and sausage rolls to customers. Junk food companies and general producers of crap provide more incentives to the fuel companies. There would have to be a much larger margin of profit per unit too. |
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14-07-2016, 02:05 PM | #30 | |||
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Plus you'd be changing the way that people's have been getting fuel for 50 years. And Aussies don't like that big of a change. Not to mention if you don't know how much exactly it's going to cost if your almost empty.... Gotta pay my wages somehow.
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