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Interesting concept, reviewing a road car on the road. The fashionable thing would be to take it to a race track where a C-list racing driver can set hot laps and compare it to an SSV Redline to find the grand champion of doing things that 99% of owners will never do.
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If we're strictly measuring performance, again circuits fall over because they're all different. A drag strip, however, is a universal measurement. I can expect to run in the same ballpark at any 1/4 mile drag strip that I visit. Circuits, not so much. Which circuit do we test on? A tight, technical circuit? A power circuit? If we compare an XR6 Sprint with an SS Redline on a circuit like Phillip Island, I can see the SS being in big trouble. On a tighter circuit like Wakefield Park or Marulan? The advantage tips in the SS' favour. Different tracks, different requirements. That's why racing cars are set up differently for each venue. Yet road cars are in a static state of engine and suspension tune. So while an SSV-R may be more competitive at one venue, the XR6/8 Sprint may have the edge at another. On top of that, how do we rate track work? A flying lap? How about 10 laps, flat chat. Which one can actually perform in a track environment? I think it would be foolish to judge the performance of a car based on a lap time from one particular track. |
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Took a bloke's bloke to give it two thumbs up.
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When the healthiest of these stock xr6 sprints are running flat 12s or quicker ill agree its the fastest 4.0 turbo ever... till then ill reserve my judgement.
To say it will smoke any fg f6 is inaccurate. Yes yes I know qm times aren't everything. I still say the fg f6 is the king over everything. |
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Put it this way, a G6e isnt a F6.
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![]() Stock FG-X XR6T Sprint was at AFF Drags last weekend and pulling mid-12s all day long on street tyres ![]() The same FG F6's were on drag radials and did not best it ![]() |
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I'm not sure why the comparo's of the fgx sprint to previous model F6 and XR6T/G6ET..Can't we all just appreciate the best ever falcon was infact the last ever produced. And it was a turbo 6...maybe ford knew all along?
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Same here and I'm sure you will enjoy a car that has been long awaited by many, irrespective to what it can or cannot do the Sprint 6 and Sprint 8 certainly deserve their place in motoring history.
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Back in 2012 my then bog stock auto fgf6 (complete with stock 245 dunflop tyres) ran numerous 12.5-12.7 1/4 with trap speeds all around 115-116mph, all runs were done on both lanes but it was noted that the left lane at heathcote seemed better for launching. Maybe the FG being a bit lighter than the FGX helped there who knows but i think the 2 cars are pretty damn close at the strip overall...
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Edit,just saw the true times that car ran,lol id be sad if it were my car...
Those turbo sprints should run easy flat 12 with 375 supposed kw,possibly 11,hahah My stock g6et runs 13.1 and its only got 270fwkw and its a big red slug,stock xr turbos and g6et have run 12.7,12.8 lol |
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Xr6 Sprint eats anything made by Ford oz to 100.
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Something not quite right with the official XR6 Sprint specs...
325KWs and 576Nm of torque at the fly (measured using premium unleaded 95 RON) When standard FGX XR6T has... 270KWs and 533Nm of torque at the fly (also measured on 95 RON) And FG F6 has... 310KWs and 565Nm at the fly By comparison the stock FGX XR6T is making more torque per kilowatt than the Sprint or F6. Is Ford down playing the XR6 Sprint torque spec not to upstage the XR8 Sprint? Spend $3,000 and a tuned XR6T with 300rwKws (probably 370 at the fly) will have an estimated 670Nm. |
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I said from the off that the XR6 Sprint will likely be the quickest Ford ever and in time will also I am sure out-do the XR8 Sprint once the real times are in. I couldn't care less really, I would still have a MKII F6 over a Sprint any day of the week. I just can't possibly imagine walking outside and looking at a Sprint and thinking 'special'
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How are we to know - really know - that the 'stock' XR6T is really "stock"? One will never know - only the owner when it comes down to it. Good on him anyway for enjoying his car to the max!
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This is so insignificant I'm almost embarrassed to post it, but don't they come with a black roof or is it an option?
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I do agree with the reviewer when he says the Sprint "looks too tame" (in exterior appearance).
I think the F6 with its unique front grille and rear end treatment certainly looks tougher. I also think the black "banana" "6" decal on the rear quarter looks very 1970's and should I dare say ... woggy. ![]() |
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Anyone got the link for the xr8?
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Thanks for that
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Her's: 2000 AU II Fairmont Ghia 75th anniversary VCT meteorite & 2014 yaris - white His Toy: 2012 fg II GT-E, emperor red His: VS Ute 5 Litre 5 speed (povo pack) His: 2012 FG II GS, Vanish His: 2003 BA GT-P, Lightening Strike Jnr: 2002 AU III Falcon XR6 ST, 5 speed Blueprint & 1978 XC Fairmont Neptune Blue Previous: 1976 HX 50th Anniversary Kingswood 2014 FGX G6E Turbo 1980 XD Falcon GL 2003 BA Falcon XR6 1991 EB Falcon S 1989 EA Fairmont 1982 XE Fairmont 1968 XT Falcon |
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He didn’t mention he was sitting too high, it’s a wonder he didn’t get a nose bleed.
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Funny, for a mag like Street Machine not to mention the XR6 370Kws overboost at all is strange!
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Does anyone have the details, from the meeting with Justin last night or otherwise, about the "run-in" period of XR6? Like to know in what ways or by how much the XRTS is restricted during run-in and for how long.
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