Ford will close early (Herald Sun)

[fgpsi]

[Sam Beckett]

and it (media) starts again

[burnz]

when ever the media quote someone it's "mr smith" said.. cant they use nguyen instead.
a bit of variety?

[PepeLePew]

And there are plenty who know how to play the media game and feed the troll.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Ford do nothing to help themselves. They want to close early, this speculation will only give them more reason to do so. Market confidence is dwindling away quickly.

[flooded one]

The media. At it again, if Ford does close early, Holden will be targeted next and if they close early it will be Toyotas turn. I wonder out of all three manufactures left, which one would really be losing the most money???

[Bossxr8]

What's the problem here, Ford do nothing to sell locally made cars and would benefit significantly in terms of loosing money if they pull out early.

For them it is win/win. Trust me, it will be well before 2016. I would give the 201X 6-12 months then there will be some excuse why they have to stop, most likely a parts supplier falling over, and Ford will refuse to bail them out like they have done in the past to keep production going.

[FNQracing]

I have always thought it would be a miracle if we get to see FH. Its obvious Ford want to close early, and I would too if I were them. Who on earth is going to introduce a new model at the 11th hour? There is NO WAY we'll see the FH. It will cost them too much.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by FNQracing

I have always thought it would be a miracle if we get to see FH. Its obvious Ford want to close early, and I would too if I were them. Who on earth is going to introduce a new model at the 11th hour? There is NO WAY we'll see the FH. It will cost them too much.

We will see the 201X no problem at all, the money has pretty much all been spent, and it's in the final stage of development. It's after that, when Ford have fulfilled it's obligation to the government to release it as part of the government funding they received that it becomes a big grey area.

When the losses keep pilling up they will get jack of it and pull it when they can't take anymore losses. They will not sustain losing hundreds of millions for 2 years that's for sure. It could all be over in as little as 9-12 months.

[BHDOGS]

good news for ford then

[Silver Ghia]

Ford have been working for several years on the new Falcon and Territory; they are committed due to the government assistance received, so I expect the new models will be released.

The last paragraph of the article implies that Ford will face losing hundreds of millions of dollars in losses if it rolls out the new Falcon in August. The troll writer does not realise millions of dollars has already been spent on it, and there's no going back.

And the title is all wrong. Ford will NOT close early.

Journalism at its worst.

[jpd80]

This is fear talking, the Union doesn't know because Ford doesn't know either....
Nothing has changed, this is just the media printing a collection of political brain farts.

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

When the losses keep pilling up they will get jack of it and pull it when they can't take anymore losses. They will not sustain losing hundreds of millions for 2 years that's for sure. It could all be over in as little as 9-12 months.

But will they lose hundreds of millions?
Remember the previous year's loss is completely due to an impairment l taken on buildings and infrastructure write downs,
not losses from vehicle sales. A lot of this is clearly being engineered because head office wants FoA's books simplified by "One Ford"

[Ford17]

I'm just hoping for the opportunity to buy a new FH, as late into the production run as possible.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Forda

I'm just hoping for the opportunity to buy a new FH, as late into the production run as possible.

Sorry, but that's the wrong attitude. Buy one now. Dont be greedy (like everyone else) and try and "cash in" on <insert big-noting voice here> "Its the last of the falcons"

Everyone is holding off, and that's the problem. Stop thinking of yourself, you ain't helping. Buy ASAP.

[Ford17]

Originally Posted by Revolver

Sorry, but that's the wrong attitude. Buy one now. Dont be greedy (like everyone else) and try and "cash in" on <insert big-noting voice here> "Its the last of the falcons"

Everyone is holding off, and that's the problem. Stop thinking of yourself, you ain't helping. Buy ASAP.

Wrong. Can't buy an FH now anyway.

My reasons for wanting an FH are not so much to do with collectibility, but more to do with obtaining a suitable upgrade when my FG is ready to be replaced.

Would prefer to get an FH sometime into its production when all the bugs are ironed out too. My choice as a consumer, pending Ford Australia's longevity of course.

[Rob 351]

Oops, wrong thread!

[Elks]

Speaking of circling Vultures....

To be fair to FoA the have never guaranteed the would stay open, only not later than October 2016.

I'd love them them to reverse this decision and produce RHD F-series SUV's or other high value vehicle. But I'm dreaming.

[csv8]

FORD have a shocking PR team...they need to be open and honest with Australians....I too hope the FH sees the light of day..but............

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by csv8

FORD have a shocking PR team...they need to be open and honest with Australians....I too hope the FH sees the light of day..but............

What do you want them to say that they haven't already?

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by csv8

FORD have a shocking PR team...they need to be open and honest with Australians....I too hope the FH sees the light of day..but............

Ford may not be completely open, just like every car manufacturer with long lead times for product development. However where have they been dishonest?

[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by csv8

FORD have a shocking PR team...they need to be open and honest with Australians....I too hope the FH sees the light of day..but............

They have been honest. They have repeated advised us it is their intention to operate to 2016. It will depend on sales performance though. They have said this time and time again. Just a shame the media and the masses keep probing into a statement that means what it is. No one can tell what the numbers will be in 2015. So let them just run their course and time will tell. to me, it just sounds like someone is dying and we all want to know what date the funeral is!

[Gadgetman]

Originally Posted by csv8

FORD have a shocking PR team...they need to be open and honest with Australians....I too hope the FH sees the light of day..but............

They have been honest. They have repeatedly advised us it is their intention to operate to 2016. It will depend on sales performance though. They have said this time and time again. Just a shame the media and the masses keep probing into a statement that means what it is. No one can tell what the numbers will be in 2015. So let them just run their course and time will tell. to me, it just sounds like someone is dying and we all want to know what date the funeral is!

[EgoFG]

Originally Posted by Gadgetman

They have been honest. They have repeatedly advised us it is their intention to operate to 2016. It will depend on sales performance though. They have said this time and time again. Just a shame the media and the masses keep probing into a statement that means what it is. No one can tell what the numbers will be in 2015. So let them just run their course and time will tell. to me, it just sounds like someone is dying and we all want to know what date the funeral is!

In fact Ford's honesty is very evident when compared to their most direct competitor in Australia.

Holden promise the world and the press eats it up, and then offer very little negative comment when the promises get broken.

Ford tells it like it is, the press bags them. And when what they say or imply come to fruition .. the press bags them.

CONCLUSION: Ford should lie like Holden does

[sbutler]

Ford & PR ? Is there such a thing.
I remember when the EBGT was being talked about. I knew more than the dealer about it, & ended up buying one later. But the dealers didnt know a thing about them, same with XR8 Sprints.. Just hopeless.

[Auslandau]

A Union bloke says that "Fords future is unclear"

Ford says they "Have every intention to be manufacturing till Oct 2016"

Paper reports ......... "Ford will close early"

....... so the report is correct?

Stupid .........

[XWGT]

Lol its actually the union demanding the Federal Government keep the redundancy assistance 2 weeks before the federal budget. Cheap shot 101 and the media love to promote it.

nothing to see here.......

[PepeLePew]

I never heard of Dave Smith before all this started....didn't think I'd hear that name again. But here he is again sticking his 2c in, now that manufacturing is doomed, to give it another push along the road to early oblivion. Does that make sense for the members? I'm puzzled. Draining confidence in the close date can't be a positive can it?

[Auslandau]

Its a case of the media thinking 1+1=47

[neptune blue]

Like a lot of posts, I believe that ford will pull out early but the new model will still be introduced

So what are the AMWU going to do about it ..... Go on strike?

[csv8]

Maybe honest was the wrong word ,maybe more forthcoming???