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If the sound of an EV doesn't float your boat, remember these?
![]() The SR interface has come along way in the 10 or so years it's been available. I remember the first ones used to sound crap, like when your car was at 3000rpm the engine sound coming through was at like 10'000rpm! The new 'X' model is fully adjustable and can be user calibrated to suit your taste. If you have a 'fully sik' sound system, this would sound closer to the real thing. Specially the V8 files. Gentleman from the outside, hoon on the inside. ![]() |
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That electric motor whine is ear piercing, but not sure if that's as loud as it really sounds or whether they have enhanced it for the video.
But it's amazing what they can do with it. Make it RWD, AWD, adjust the torque split etc, and switch it between setups for whatever purpose they want ie. drift, race track, drag strip etc. Looking at the downforce and power figures, I reckon this has been built for Pikes Peak. |
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I think Ford took the right strategy, put the Mach E in a position to show that you can modify it in any way shape or form to perform straight line, top speed, circuit, etc. They went straight to their target market with this.
It wasn't showcasing Mach E but electric propulsion.
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I have no doubt about the power, handling, agility and speed of this thing, but the noise (or lack there of) it emanates is way too uninspiring for me.
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I actually really like the whine, it's pure intent! This is a new era in cars, it's not going to be the sound of the V8 that I love, but it's got it's own soundtrack. Reminds me of superchargers a bit.
Hopefully the sound is toned down a bit for the family version, just like with race cars to road cars with ICE - but even then it would be nice to hear a bit of a whine when putting the foot down. Maybe I've been listening to stepper motors too much recently ha! (wear PPE) And looking at the family version, that looks awesome, if it handles, and it should, there's the Terry replacement in the electric era. Nice work Ford.
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Nope, uh-uh, no.
I feel nothing but pity for anybody that thinks electric whines are all we have to look forward too. I'll be dead before that happens, and thank God for that. I imagine those same poor sods will never now the joy of sitting around a camp-fire, they'll have to make-do with infra-red LEDs. Besides, the whole thing is pointless. Yes, you can pump extraordinary amounts of power through electric motors, especially for short bursts. It's nothing new. They're basically equivalent to a "Top Fuel" drag car.
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The cold hard reality is that while a steam engine sounds awesome for a weekend trip, for the Monday to Friday trip into work, nothing beats an air-conditioned electric train. It is quiet. It is comfortable. It is faster. It is cleaner. Tomorrow's generation of rev-heads will love the sound of an electric variable-speed drive, and the increasing whine of the electric coils in motor as the speed increases. Instead of calculating swept volume after an alteration to a petrol engine, they will calculate variations in permeance of the electric motor due to slotting on the rotor and stator, saturation, eccentricities and dyssemeteries. They will be trying to go as fast as possible. They will be spending more money than they should on their set of wheels. And they will be having tons of fun. |
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The high def flatscreens are much better than the CRTs we grew up with, but so what. Nobody takes their Samsung to a Show'n'Shine.
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As someone who normally hates electric cars, I like this one.
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I said it ages ago that Electric Vehicles need a signature sound for performance.
This is the 1st time I have heard one. People will like it or hate it, just as some people like or hate the sound of a V8s, Turbos, Super Chargers or what ever combination of them. It is a sign of what is to come.
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AND???
When my parents bought a house in Perth, they bought on a quarter acre, near the river, literally within walking distance of the city. Couples buying today are buying blocks a third that size, 2 hours drive from the city. Times change, it happens, but its not always for the better. And besides, people have been saying "its the future" for at least the last 50 years. As a child we were told that by the year 2000 "all cars would be electric." Well guess what. Its the same reason companies roll out "cars of the future" at every motor show, none of which ever become said future. They want to be seen to be pioneering technology, and thus constantly attracting new buyers. Otherwise they end up like Cadillac, with nobody under the age of 80 buying their cars. Furthermore, in today's culture, where it's perfectly acceptable to live in a 2000sqm mansion, spend $500 on a pair of undies, and fly around the world in a private jet, provided you own a Prius, ostentatious performance has to be seen to be "green". SO never mind that building your hyper-car consumed enough energy to power an African nation, and still actually only gets 6mpg, it's a Hybrid so that makes it ok.
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Skipping through 2000 (no electric vehicles worthy of mention) Forty years later, in 2020, and Ford demos the Mustang Mach-E electric SUV with 1-megawatt (1,000kW) drive train capacity. Your kidding me a 1-megawatt drive train!!!!! Expletives fail me. The Mach-E looks awesome. I would be happy to take that to any show and shine. |
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Why they didn't happen earlier? That is for another topic but I guess the main factor is, car makers found it easier and cheaper to keep pumping out ICEs and governments got fat on the fuel taxes. The world has changed and now EVs are slowing coming about (more so in Europe, USA and Asia) with Hydrogen research ramping up (there are a number of organisations and manufacturers here in AU involved). Ford is seeing a market here but also not wanting to lose their tuner crowd hence this Mach E monster. Showcases you can still modify electric cars and make insane horsepower.
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We never got electric cars in the 80s and 90s primarily because of Nickel Cadmium battery technology not having a high enough energy density/capacity per cell. All other factors were there though in fact NiCD was used to power trams more than 100 years ago.
We did kind-of get electric hybrid cars, at least the americans did, with the electric/petrol Hondas in the early-late 90s: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_EV_Plus https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight https://insideevs.com/features/34197...nt-and-future/ As far as the sound is concerned I think its a bit obnoxious but that would be what you would describe 1MW of power going to all four wheels. I'm sure its a peak value not an average. There might be a better sounding EV out there that comes along further down the line. Last edited by gooseneck; 26-07-2020 at 07:59 PM. |
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It's like a full size version of the RC cars we had as kids - fun for about an hour, then you'd have to recharge the batteries!
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