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Old 25-08-2010, 05:00 AM   #1
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Is it just me or are there hardly any 1979 or older Australian Fords on the roads?? I haven't seen a Cortina, Fairlane or even 70s Falcon for many months and i drive a great deal across alot of locations. In contrast, there appear to be many many old Statesmans Kingswoods and late 70s commodores everywhere. Is it just Adelaide or is there a massive lack of old Fords everywhere?

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Old 25-08-2010, 08:02 AM   #2
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Old 25-08-2010, 08:11 AM   #3
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My Cortina lives in a shed. I think most people who own classics don't drive them as daily's.
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still a few up here,more valiant daily drivers around here than anything.
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Old 25-08-2010, 01:05 PM   #5
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My Cortina lives in a shed. I think most people who own classics don't drive them as daily's.
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Old 25-08-2010, 01:44 PM   #6
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My Cortina lives in a shed. I think most people who own classics don't drive them as daily's.
Totally Agrree..and mines only a warm neat cruzer out on the w.e's...the real mint ones dont get out much at all...
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Is it just me or are there hardly any 1979 or older Australian Fords on the roads?? I haven't seen a Cortina, Fairlane or even 70s Falcon for many months and i drive a great deal across alot of locations. In contrast, there appear to be many many old Statesmans Kingswoods and late 70s commodores everywhere. Is it just Adelaide or is there a massive lack of old Fords everywhere?
In perth i come across a few oldies every now and again , mostly old falcons and a few hq utes.
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Old 25-08-2010, 01:09 PM   #8
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It's the same over in the west. I hate to say it but i think most of the old Fords have rusted to death.
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Old 25-08-2010, 01:21 PM   #9
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A lot of the 'unloved' models like Cortinas and some Fairlanes have long since been scrapped. Many Fairlanes have been cannibalised for parts for project cars.

Then again, I see very few early Commodores on the road these days. Probably for the same reasons.
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Old 25-08-2010, 01:39 PM   #10
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Ive got a couple of XB sedans I see, as well as an XA GT mockup (at least I hope it's a mockup seeing the condition it's in).

There is also a nice sounding V8 XD wagon I see regularly as well.

But I do also see a few nice statos around as well. They just preserve better.

The weather in each particular area would be a factor too. I'm betting you see more nice old school cars in QLD than in the wet south.
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The weather in each particular area would be a factor too. I'm betting you see more nice old school cars in QLD than in the wet south.
i actually find it the opposite.i have lived up here for around 20 years and around 20 years around armidale nsw and i still go there on a regular basis.i find the more humid the weather the more cars rust,i have found the higher the altitude the longer the car lasts.
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Then again, I see very few early Commodores on the road these days. Probably for the same reasons.
too right, thats why i'm keeping mine mint
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too right, thats why i'm keeping mine mint
Ah yes... mint rust bucket, 82 vintage, pollution plus! a fine choice sir
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I would imagine they are being parked these days and kept for special occassions.
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Old 25-08-2010, 02:59 PM   #15
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Is it just me or are there hardly any 1979 or older Australian Fords on the roads?? I haven't seen a Cortina, Fairlane or even 70s Falcon for many months and i drive a great deal across alot of locations. In contrast, there appear to be many many old Statesmans Kingswoods and late 70s commodores everywhere. Is it just Adelaide or is there a massive lack of old Fords everywhere?
I'd say a big factor is the regional thing, Adelaide is Holden country (Elizabeth) like Geelong is Ford country and you'll see a disproportionate number of Holden's and Ford's in both areas relative to the rest of Oz. IMHO I see more older Fords in better condition then older Holdens, but then again I see more Euro suv's at school pick-up time than any local brands combined and multiplied...
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Old 25-08-2010, 03:16 PM   #16
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my xb ute is my daily ride.. i have to agree that i don't see many old cars either.. if i see 10 of them then 8 will be other than ford. i'm guessing because the holdens are cheaper and easier to find? all i know is that finding parts isn't as easy anymore..
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Old 30-08-2010, 07:42 PM   #17
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Recently I've seen two Mk2 Escorts getting around town. Was a nice surprise as i thought i was the only one in town with one. My favorite is a little white RS2000 with Mexico details and all. I always stare whenever i see it, poor guy probably thinks im laughing at him.
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My 66 GT Cortina & 77 5.8 Falcon coupe get seen by me every day as I walk past them to leave the house. I then drive either the Laser or AU to work or where ever I'm off to. There is a few oldies both Ford & Holden used as daily drivers here on the Gold Coast, with many more getting out for a cruise on the week ends.
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Old 25-08-2010, 11:24 PM   #19
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Exactley fords have more history not just in aus but internationally
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Old 25-08-2010, 11:34 PM   #20
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Can be a case of a couple of things:

1. They are just not in your area. On the Fairlane appreciation thead, it was once discussed on the colours on NA/NC 'lanes. I myself have always wondered, why there are so many emerald green, & silver ones up here in QLD, but almost no cobalt blue ones like mine. Turns out that the emerald green ones are a bit thin on the ground in VIC if I remember. Guess it could be the same.

2. Any car beyond 20yrs old is generally considered a classic (some people may argue 30) & they start to be snapped up eagerly, or as said before, rust starts to kill them. So= less.

3. If you have one of these (also mentioned previously) you wont use it as a daily driver.

4. Holden parts are generally a bit more abundant, & therefore more affordable.

5. Does it matter? The more there are put away, the more that survive....
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I travel around country Victoria for work and the most common old car i see are Holden HQ-WB variants.
There are still a lot of pre-90's cars out there used as daily drivers.
Just this morning coming home @ 2.30am i saw a HQ 2 door Monaro on South rd Moorabbin.
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I did see an old XB (I think) something today... It looked like an XB crewman of sorts! Never seen anything like it before! I assume its actually a wagon that had the rear removed and a tray attached! It looked very very very well done!

But I see alot more old Falcons down my way! Hardly any old Holdens... must have something to do with all the ships off Newcastle beach... anchers away! Classic LTD!!!
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I see plenty of old Fords around here.
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I havent read past the original question but still,

I see a hell of alot more old fords than holdens around here. especially the restored ones. Every day i would see at least 2 XC or older. And thats just by driving through a country town.
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im in Hervey Bay QLD and i see heaps of old Fords and Holdens every day
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in the past week, have seen two xy/xw gt's as wedding cars, and about a million HZ HX's.
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I think one thing that hasnt been mentioned regarding older cars in general is their poor economy and most cant run on fairy fuel

The bloke i bought my XC Fairmont off drove it everyday
But the cost of fuel was killing him (pensioner)
He up graded to a VT commondore
Cheaper to run, cheaper on rego , more comfortable and probably more power ???

Then the other issue as mentioned most older models are getting used for donor cars
Even the injected V8 commondores are getting thin for this reason
Parts are out wieghing the cars value
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i drive my clevo zj everyday
not that i see a lot of toher stuff aound though, like a few people have said hz era stuff and utes are still quite common...
that being said, i pulled up next to a zh yesterday in penrith, and still see a few 70s model fords, but not much pre xy stuff...
it is a lot rarer to see a fairlane than a falcon though as someone mentioned before, as they were mostly attacked and scrapped...
every other zj ive looked at has been rubbish...
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As Ryan mentioned, there sweet f/a up in Newcastle.
The X series Falcons (say between XR to XC) are becoming too expensive to buy than the Holden counterparts and are usually riddled with tons of rust. The XW/XY Falcons and XA-XC coupes are a good example as few are for sale and the ones that are generally need a lot of expensive and time consuming repairs. A lot of people seem to hold on to them for years, parked outside with the intention to rebuild but 5 years later they lose interest. By then the cars rotted and rare bits are missing.
The XD - XF's are still farily obtainable cheaply, but again rusty. The oldest I see up here on a regular basis are the EB/EF/EL's.
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As Ryan mentioned, there sweet f/a up in Newcastle.
The X series Falcons (say between XR to XC) are becoming too expensive to buy than the Holden counterparts and are usually riddled with tons of rust. The XW/XY Falcons and XA-XC coupes are a good example as few are for sale and the ones that are generally need a lot of expensive and time consuming repairs. A lot of people seem to hold on to them for years, parked outside with the intention to rebuild but 5 years later they lose interest. By then the cars rotted and rare bits are missing.
The XD - XF's are still farily obtainable cheaply, but again rusty. The oldest I see up here on a regular basis are the EB/EF/EL's.
I was in the Foreshore yesterday, and I saw a couple of nice XYs. Actually there's heaps of 1960s Mustangs usually around.

I was driving beside a red one coming home.
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