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Hey all, just wondering, whats the go when it comes to how quick one can take off at the lights, for example. If someone takes off in a cloud of smoke with their *** end hanging out, I can understand the getting in trouble from the law. Now, if one takes off quick from the lights with no wheel spin, and is in complete control of their car at all times and no speed limits were at all broken, at what point do or can the law step in and say "thats too quick, son". Can any one share their experiences? What is the law, is it open to interpretation?
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*conversation with policemans roadside* you were speeding back there.. no i wasnt.. how fast was i going??.. ummm...... just slow it down a bit k.. ok....
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I've always wondered the same
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There is "unlawfull" or "undue excelleration and noise" or somesuch...basically, whatever the patrolling officer deams to be "unsafe"
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In QLD it reads:
291 Making unnecessary noise or smoke (1) A person must not— (a) start a vehicle, or drive a vehicle, in a way that makes unnecessary noise or smoke; or (b) wilfully start a vehicle, or drive a vehicle, in a way that makes unnecessary noise or smoke. Maximum penalty—20 penalty units. Example for paragraph (a)— driving a vehicle in a way that causes noise or smoke because of— (a) disrepair of the vehicle; or (b) the way the vehicle is loaded; or (c) the condition, construction or adjustment of the vehicle’s engine or other equipment Example for paragraph (b)— driving a vehicle in a way that causes noise or smoke by wilfully and unnecessarily causing the wheels of the vehicle to lose traction and spin on the road surface But it doesnt define how loud the noise needs to be.... Have never found anything with regard to fast acceleration....
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From what ive seen, unecessary noise seems to be at the police officers discretion. If youre seen taking off from the lights at WOT, or something they feel is loud enough, to warrant pulling you up. It may not necessarily be the law, but it doesnt seem to stop the boys in blue from pulling you up on it. Fight/argue it, and theyll just make youre life hell. Not a personal experience, but I have observed it happen to others. |
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had a mate, who is a cop follow me in an unmarked cop car waitin for me to do something wrong......... I didnt know he was there, I had a genIII commy, I took off a little fast, ie planted the foot so i got off the lights fast but no wheel spin, he hit the bubblegum lights and pulled me up. He coulda booked me if he wanted etc. It wasnt harsh acceleration , just a good decent takeoff.
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I guess it depends on the cops mood/personality
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I've been stopped many time on motorcycles 1000cc plus bikes.
Once the cop kept me there for nearly an hour trying to find something to book me for. In the finish he just told me to slow down and take it easy. There's no fun in that. Fastest I've been on the road? If I told you the speed I'd still get arrested even today, lets just say very very quick indeed. |
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i've topped 255 kph on a bike & well over 260 kph in a car - all on public roads.... And all the time not breaking any law, ![]() ![]() ![]() Even though that speed was legal, some still may reasonably be thinking that sounds totally crazy, but at both times during those high speed "blasts" the roads were straight, long, open & totally free from any other road users.... Anyway, made it thru to tell the tale, lol. Last edited by Gavin Thomas; 30-10-2011 at 12:40 AM. |
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^^^^ Lol - i also managed to hit the "double metric ton" in a rental bitsashiti lancer...
I remember also Craig Lowndes doing a 250k + run down the track in a FPVGT just before they pulled the plug on the fun.... It was after the Darwin leg of the V8 S/C event, and he drove back in a road registered vehicle basically flat out - & all legal. |
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300km/h in a AU ute? I had a speedo like that once...... |
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Few years ago got pulled over for too fast acceleration but they couldn't register my speed ,alot of arguing in the end he gave me 2 options reckless driving or a canary I took the canary .
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Or the policemen's favorite when all else fails, "Driving with undue care and attention"
The other thing a lot don't understand is just because the speed limit says 60 kph, if in the opinion of the officer, you are driving too quick for the conditions be that weather or traffic, he can book you.. Most coppers don't go out of their way but now and then you meet dirty harry...... |
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Not to mention that on other forums (and also a guy i work with) people have mentioned being booked before reaching an area where, for example, the speed drops from 80 down to 60, and the policeman estimates that you "couldn't have gotten the vehicle down to the required speed before the sign". Here's your ticket. This is possibly linked to the misconception some people have that you only have to start slowing down when you reach the lower speed zone sign or, more usually, start speeding up before they reach a higher speed zone sign...such as flooring it as you approach a 100 sign when coming out of an 80 zone, but before reaching the 100 sign. Lot of people been booked for that, believing some such nonsense as "Once the sign is clearly visible you can start speeding up"... ![]() |
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[QUOTE=jpd80]OThe other thing a lot don't understand is just because the speed limit says 60 kph,
if in the opinion of the officer, you are driving too quick for the conditions be that weather or traffic, he can book you..[QUOTE] i'll bet 'toady tonight' would like to take them to task for that one, since we 'know' 1k over is deadly... ![]()
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as far as i know if there is no smoke/skiding and you Dont break the speed limit doesnt matter.
Thats why i love torque. When ever some kid in his old commy wants to play i let him take off snap second hit the speedlimit and cruise. This way i wasnt racing him and i wasnt speeding. But stil gets him looking to the side as i fly past for a second then brake at the speed limit. Normally resulting in them speeding off
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I was very happy with the canary cost me nothing.
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In regards to the noise, what if you had a modified XR6T with a standard exhaust take of at 60% flat to the speed limit. Surely a stock/quiet exhaust on a 6cyl would not be over this undefined limit?
And even though it's 60% throttle, i'm sure that's making more power than the majority of cars flat out. Would this hypothetical car get done?
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Be careful of anti hooning laws,
Actions that are seen as anti social can run you foul of the law..... Quote:
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My mates in NSW when they were P platers got pulled over for this a few times. In Victoria I have never heard anyone been pulled over for this.
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Tbh there is alot of times im surprised i havnt been pulled over and had the finger wagged at me. There has been times where Ive put the boot in leaving lights and had a slight chirp when coming onto boost then noticed a cop car in traffic behind me been followed for a while then they go on their way. And my exhaust is very loud
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