Damn Keys Help Me Out!

[seduced_xr]

ok so over the years the cars in the family regualry and friends have been :

VS Commo wagon. SOLD Both sets of keys sold with car
EF falcon. currently in brothers posession. Both sets of keys accounted for
VX commodore wagon. both sets of keys accounted for
BA 1 fairmont. both sets of keys sold with car
BF Xr6. both sets accounted for
BA fairlane g220. both sets accounted for

Friends cars.
AU forte. both sets of keys accounted for.
AU futura both sets of keys account for
AU furura. both sets sold with car
AU fairmont both sets sold with car
BA futura Both Sets accounted for
BA XT both sets accounted for,

now . . . in my spare keys draw there is:
1 set of commodore keys
1 set of EF remote and ef key tagged with the efs licence plate
1 set of BF remote and key. tagged with licence number
and... this bloody mystery set

1 EF/L sedan Keyfob with smart lock written in it.
1 AU/BA key
1 EF AU glovebox key..

this set will not fit any of the ba / au falcons door locks
the remote will not open the ef

what the bloody hell model could it be from?
the family is clueless. can provide a picture...

if i cant identify it to a car i will be taking the keyfob and coding it to the ef as the ef spare set has the doors button dead.

thank u

[seduced_xr]

[Russ]

Hi,

From what I can see the round headed silver key is for a glove compartment (if you were unaware) the other black topped one is definitely a smartlock key perhaps from an EB - ED. I think the EB was the first model for smartlock design ?? AFAIK most of the later models don't have locking glove compartments , my '05 BA XR6 hasn't anyway !!! So I would confidently say it is suited to a pre - 2000 model if that helps.


Russ

[Airmon]

My BA has the same Key, My EF has the same Fob, and the EF, the AU and the BA all have the same glove box key. (Yes the BA Has a lockable glove box, Mk1 at least)

[seduced_xr]

the black square key is AU or BA.. thats y i cant work out y its with an ef keyfob. can ford put it in a scanner or something or is it pretty much cant locate the car to bad

[LUXO_8]

early AU1's had smartlock not smartshield...

if i found it on the ground somewhere, i would presume it'd be from an AU1

[partzkid]

its from an au1. that key is from au1 onwards but the keypad only suits eb2 to au 1.

partzkid

[b2tf]

Originally Posted by partzkid

its from an au1. that key is from au1 onwards but the keypad only suits eb2 to au 1.

partzkid

As above, I'm going with AU1.

[TUF_302]

i would definetly say it is for AU1 or later, EB-EL has a more rounded key like the one lower in the pic, so my guess is something later than EL

[Mr Hardware]

Originally Posted by partzkid

its from an au1. that key is from au1 onwards but the keypad only suits eb2 to au 1.

100% Correct.

[HLC]

AU 1 key.

listen to peuty, he is correct.







provided that that key and fob are matched.

the key could be anywhere from AU 1 - BA (dunno when the new keys rolled out)

and the fob can be anywhere from E(whichever had central locking) - AU 1

[BLUEYBA]

Originally Posted by HLC

AU 1 key.

listen to peuty, he is correct.







provided that that key and fob are matched.

the key could be anywhere from AU 1 - BA (dunno when the new keys rolled out)

and the fob can be anywhere from E(whichever had central locking) - AU 1

Yep AU1 My Dad has an AU1 TL50 and its the same

[XR6_661]

Looks like a BA key, with an EL smart lock pad.

HYBRID CAR =O

nah but seriously, Wouldn't that be a set from a series 3 AU?

[partzkid]

nah, remote won't do an AU3

[Bosman]

Orange Tag - Eseries key - Eseries to Au1 Fob
Yellow Tag - All B Series
No tag - Au2-3-BA key - Eseries to au1 Fob

Oh and the white tag...........POS throw it away

[Peuty]

Ok, as others have said it is DEFINITELY a set of AU1.5 keys. The square key (not a BA key, they had AU keys ) denotes the car having Smartshield (which came with the AU1 upgrade) and the keypad denotes the car being a series one.

[seduced_xr]

friends had a series 1 futura

had the exact same keys and keyfob of the orange tagged ones...

that key is the same u would find on a AU and BA

i cant work it out.. could it be possible ford cut an EF key onto an AU/BA key but there is no chip inside the key? how do i open the key to look

[bodes-sh]

yes, it could be cut for another car, the key will have a transponder chip in it to work with the smartshield cars, but the only "encoding" for the older style keys is just the way they are cut, lol. so, yes, it could be a au2 on key cut for a pre au2 car...

[seduced_xr]

how can i pull the key open to check for a chip

[seduced_xr]

i know ef el remotes are interchangable but hopeing mabe remotes origainally issued to ef el have different stamps on them.. could an el and ef owner pull apart the remote that came with the their car and tell me if the black chip has

9905 069 046 M92AD on it and the silver circle thingy

S+M
R1534
OKD

also the inside of the plastic covers have PA66
thanx

[kwaka738]

Just happened to be pulling apart and EL remote (a friend's car) and a Google took me to this post. The remote doesn't work and that is why I have it apart looking at it. Looks pretty good inside and the battery is good but I am stumped as to what is wrong with it.

Seeing how I have it apart the details on it are:

9905 069 046 M74AB (black chip)

S+M (silver thingy which I think is a transistor)
R1534
AJ4

inside the plastic cover it has PA66

Originally Posted by seduced_xr

i know ef el remotes are interchangable but hopeing mabe remotes origainally issued to ef el have different stamps on them.. could an el and ef owner pull apart the remote that came with the their car and tell me if the black chip has

9905 069 046 M92AD on it and the silver circle thingy

S+M
R1534
OKD

also the inside of the plastic covers have PA66
thanx

[Airmon]

I have a set of AUI Keys and both the Fob and Key are different. As far as I know the square keys only came in on BA, and are different to everything else.

[Peuty]

Originally Posted by Airmon

I have a set of AUI Keys and both the Fob and Key are different. As far as I know the square keys only came in on BA, and are different to everything else.

Wrong again.

I am telling you now that halfway through the AU1 cycle they updates the Smartlock system to Smartsheild, which meant the old round E Series key was done away with, with the square key being the replacement.


If you look at the keys hanging from the ignition of my SERIES ONE you will see my spare keys, which are square and if you look really really closely, you will see the keypad as well, which is the old E Series style.

[seduced_xr]

ah ok. thanx mate

so we know they r from a later series 1 AU.. problem is now.. i dont have an au .. lol and all au's that have ever been in my garage both sets r accountable for

[Airmon]

Originally Posted by Peuty

Wrong again.

I am telling you now that halfway through the AU1 cycle they updates the Smartlock system to Smartsheild, which meant the old round E Series key was done away with, with the square key being the replacement.


If you look at the keys hanging from the ignition of my SERIES ONE you will see my spare keys, which are square and if you look really really closely, you will see the keypad as well, which is the old E Series style.

Fair enough, and when I see the AU next I'll take a pic, but I have a completely different key and fob for the AU that we do for the EF and the BA. Might be different because its a ute?

[Peuty]

Originally Posted by Airmon

Fair enough, and when I see the AU next I'll take a pic, but I have a completely different key and fob for the AU that we do for the EF and the BA. Might be different because its a ute?

Ok, be interesting to see what you have actually got key wise.

[Powdered Toast Man]

Peuty mate, your spare key's not gonna be much help to you on your key ring with the rest of your keys lol.

I assume its the spare to another car?

[Peuty]

Originally Posted by Powdered Toast Man

Peuty mate, your spare key's not gonna be much help to you on your key ring with the rest of your keys lol.

I assume its the spare to another car?

Haha I know. I think I took that photo right before it's new owner drove it away. This was a couple years ago now anyway.

[GJB XR]

Yellow tag key = BF
White tag key = VT / VX / VY / VZ Commodore
No tag = AU 1
Orange tag key = Eseries to AU 1

[rick293]

OK all, I have a question about the keys supplied for my BF Futura Wagon. I bought the car 2nd hand and have been supplied with two sets of keys with remotes. However I cannot find a use for a key that has been supplied with each set. The one in question is the one circled. Just so that you know it does not fit the glovebox and there is no lock inthe tailgate.