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Originally Posted by whynot
I had two Territory on company user-chooses vehicles. An SY AWD and an SZ RWD diesel. Despite issues with the front ball joints, I think that the SY AWD was the nicer car to drive. I was not a fan of the move from hydraulic steering to EPAS, which was a backward step for driver engagement and feel. As for the engines, there was a lot of clamour at the time for the diesel for towing duties. But, I could never see the financial payback given the longer term cost and complexity. (My fleet manager made me get the diesel to meet company green policy.) I disliked the engine. Especially the turbo lag from a dead stop. I think the pick of the litter is the SY Series II AWD.
But, to be honest, when it came time to buy one for myself, I got a CX-5 instead. I was looking for a new car at the end of 2017 and chased around to find one of the last remaining 'new' Territory still in stock. It was petrol RWD. I took it for a drive and felt there was something funny/different about the steering from memory - but I couldn't pick out exactly what (different tyres, wheel alignment out, shrug). I also had a peek under the rear door seal, and there were tiny spots of rust under the door seal on a 'new' car that had been sitting in the yard for 12 months. Sigh, that killed it. For around the same price, I could get a CX-5 AWD Maxx 2.5L with dealer fitted mags and navigation. More safety kit on the CX-5 and it was far easier for the Missus to drive. Looking at the two cars from 2016, one would have to say that the CX-5 has held up far better than the Territory every would.
Occasionally, I get the itch to hunt down a Territory SY Series II Turbo AWD. And spend some money on getting the consumables (bushings, etc) back to spec. Series II Turbos are as rare as rocking horse droppings these days. And then I wake up and stop day dreaming.
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Lol at company green policy, make you buy the car that's worse for human health with worse NOx emissions/particulate matter that harms humans.
What you experienced there isn't turbo lag, it's the way Ford did the calibration on the throttle mapping and how the throttle pedal responds to your inputs, it completely disappears when you get the car tuned. It feels like turbo lag but the car is just ignoring your throttle inputs so you go harder on the pedal then suddenly it takes off like a rocket half a second AFTER you wanted it to move. It'll present itself at busy roundabouts of course
The throttle mapping on the diesel Territory is a complete joke, it's the same as some of their Euro hatches where they limit how much torque you can have in the first three gears in the manual cars to protect the gearbox.